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Originally Posted by Owain



Rohrabacher, Rohrabacher? Where have I heard that name before...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html

The same guy that invited Natalia Veselnitskaya to sit right behind McFaul at a foreign affairs committee hearing on Russia. Interesting what is she looking at there?

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BUT WE CAN GO DEEPER...

Why did the DOJ dismiss a money laundering case connected to Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya?


Natalia was in the US to represent Prevezon, who was accused of a russian money laundering scheme involving real estate. Who was the lead on that case? Preet Bharara who was fired by Trump and co. and as soon as Trump fired him this case was settled in a very secretive manner.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c-65b1-11e7-94ab-5b1f0ff459df_story.html



TL:DR. A lawyer with a history of fighting sanctions against her country has no ties to her country? LOL give me a break.

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Preet was fired by Trump, which was apparently a good move, and then the Obama administration allowed Natasha (moose and squirrel reference) in to help him represent the Russian money launderer.

So I wonder for whom was he laundering money that the Obama State Department would make special allowances to admit Natasha into the country under extraordinary circumstances without a visa?

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I asked this before, but didn't get an answer. Owain, what would it take, what kind of evidence, for you to concede that Trump colluded with Russia? Also, when such evidence is presented, would you be for or against impeachment?


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Depends upon your definition of collusion. So far, I have seen nothing even remotely illegal.

Look, I get that a lot of people didn't vote for Trump and that there remains a lot of unresolved butt hurt over that. But after more than a year, there is still nothing in this.


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Owain #140970 07/14/17 08:18 AM
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-intelligence-officer-trump-team-n782851

Watergate from beginning to end did not take a day... It takes time for investigations like these. Meanwhile its looking worse and worse for ya boi.

So where are we now guys?

1) We never met with any Russians
2) We never met with Russians but if we did it isn't illegal
3) Ok we met with Russians but it's technically not illegal! <-------
4) There's a good chance I may have commited some light treason.


At this point I don't even think it was malicious. I think they are that stupid.

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Originally Posted by Goriom

At this point I don't even think it was malicious. I think they are that stupid.


This.

I don't even think it was the meeting part that was stupid, either. Honestly the DC-NYC corridor is a total swamp pit of people interconnected with various megacorps or govts worldwide, all seeking their own little place at Uncle Sam's table. The amount of association and intermingling that has been widely published about both sides recently just scratches the surface.

The stupid part, as is usually the case in politics, wasn't the crime but the denials and/or coverup.

When the issue first arose, Trump should just have said "I'm sure people did speak with the Russian ambassador, it's an ambassador's job to chat up people in DC, they go around to various functions and try and speak with everyone. Who would hire an unsocial ambassador? I'm also sure none of my people let out any information they shouldn't have."

Crisis averted.

Luckily for the Dems, Trump hired rare specimens like Jeff Sessions. Unsurprising that the same guy who suddenly thinks bringing back D.A.R.E. is a brilliant idea couldn't even keep his Russian story straight or supposedly recall much of what he's done for the past year.

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Derid, what you described is pretty much what has taken place. Sessions, for example, has stated that his meeting were in conjunction with his duties as a Senator when he was meeting other foreign dignitaries as well.

But when you have a dishonest agenda to advance, it will be advanced dishonestly.

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Since Mueller has disqualifying conflicts of interest and has overstepped his mandate, that is appropriate.


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