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I already said I am no longer going to continue this argument.

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Originally Posted By: Goriom
Yes if the faction is closed then everyone must fall under the flag of KGB.

Luckily for everyone involved, the faction was never closed.

When the first set of officers (including me) attempted to get the faction closed we were told we would have to wait for a set amount of time, we were also told we had to reach an active membership quota. The time constraint was met but we never had the membership to get the guild off the ground. Not only that, the hardcore aspect of the guild, which was the officer core, got fed up with the lack of activity among its member and all left. This to me was the final nail in the coffin, that is when we should have called it.


Your leaving didn't end the game for the rest of us involved in the game. Your ability to rush to 55 and expect everyone rush to the same level is ridiculousness. As a KGB officer even in an open faction you should have a better attitude and know that all people can't be "hardcore". If that is how you want to run then you shouldn't run a faction in KGB.

As for the person that left the guild because of the "drama" is just an excuse for someone that didn't want to be in KGB or doesn't understand what KGB is. If this minor "drama" is a reason for someone to leave then I for one say good riddance.

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Originally Posted By: Helemoto
Originally Posted By: Goriom
Yes if the faction is closed then everyone must fall under the flag of KGB.

Luckily for everyone involved, the faction was never closed.

When the first set of officers (including me) attempted to get the faction closed we were told we would have to wait for a set amount of time, we were also told we had to reach an active membership quota. The time constraint was met but we never had the membership to get the guild off the ground. Not only that, the hardcore aspect of the guild, which was the officer core, got fed up with the lack of activity among its member and all left. This to me was the final nail in the coffin, that is when we should have called it.


Your leaving didn't end the game for the rest of us involved in the game. Your ability to rush to 55 and expect everyone rush to the same level is ridiculousness. As a KGB officer even in an open faction you should have a better attitude and know that all people can't be "hardcore". If that is how you want to run then you shouldn't run a faction in KGB.

As for the person that left the guild because of the "drama" is just an excuse for someone that didn't want to be in KGB or doesn't understand what KGB is. If this minor "drama" is a reason for someone to leave then I for one say good riddance.


The drama was far from minor...

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The only drama is from the people who quit the game.

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then why is this discussion still going? theoretically everything should be sunshine and rainbows for the past 4 months.

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Originally Posted By: Exey
then why is this discussion still going? theoretically everything should be sunshine and rainbows for the past 4 months.


It has been extremely fun in game since the original leaders left the game.

Why are you even talking BDO.

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because these are similar issues that we were trying to prevent months ago and they happened anyway because literally 4-5 officers at that time in the game were completely ignored and brushed aside. an entire officer core doesn't just step down for no reason. your attitude towards anyone who has an opinion contrary to your own doesn't lend well to a productive discussion either.

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The inability for one group of people to run a faction has nothing with what is happening now.
You are talking about something you dont even play.

Node wars requires a massive amount of people in one guild or as we have several smaller guilds working together.

Some people are not good with working together and needed to quit the game.

No hard feelings we are having a great time.

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Here are some the requirements from Lethality's recruitment post, I whole-hardheartedly agree with and shall be submitting for perhaps adding to our own requirements (they have a zero tolerance on these and you will be dismissed from the guild):

Trolls
Anyone who likes to Troll others, on any Community Social Site, within any Community game, Community forums, or Community TeamSpeak are removed from the Community and its games. It’s not who we are, nor who we want to be.

Debbie Downers
Any members who sours the spirit of our community through consistent negative or disruptive behavior are removed from the Community and its games. We’re here to support one another and have a great time. There’s no room for Debbie Downers.


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Our General Order may not spell out like they have but it's there for people to read. Discussion leads to arguments sometime. As long as it's constructive and doesn't get personal there's nothing wrong with it. I urge everyone to keep that in mind.
[quote General Order 1: "Thou shalt uphold and abide by the ideals our Nation was built upon"

KGB Citizens have been striving to present themselves as honorable, respectable, and chivalrous since 1997. In the beginning, we came together to combat those whose existence was based on ruining the gaming experience for others. Over time we have evolved, but a basic idea and code remains. Respect both your fellow Citizens, Friends, and Foes alike whenever possible. Problems will occur and tempers will flare. Help solve the problems with calm discussion and be respectful to others if possible. Some of our foes may not deserve this respect, but do your best to offer it. Always try to respect these ideals and the many members who came before you. Always consider your nations reputation that we all have worked hard to maintain since 1997. It was this bond that brought us all together and keeps us strong.

The following policy will be enforced by the KGB Federal Faction and Supreme Court in accordance with Article 4, Section 1, of the KGB Constitution: KGB citizens will treat each other with honor and respect and never take part in Personal Harassment. What is harassment? It is repeated, intrusive or unwanted acts, words or gestures that are intended to adversely affect the safety, security or privacy of another, regardless of the relationship between the actor and the intended target. Harassment is further defined as "engag(ing) in intentional conduct which the actor [harasser] knows or has reason to know would cause the victim, under the circumstances, to feel frightened, threatened, oppressed, persecuted, or intimidated; and causes this reaction on the part of the victim.

Humor and joking are ok, and you should be sure to let someone know if you are not comfortable. It is no longer considered joking if you are made to feel frightened, threatened, oppressed, persecuted, or intimidated. Make sure you always respect your fellow citizens.

If you feel you have been the victim of harassment, first send a private message to the actor and let them know you were offended. If the behavior continues, file a KGB Supreme Court Conduct report and allow the system to protect you. Retaliation for submitting a Conduct Report will never be tolerated, and may result in dismissal from KGB./quote]

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