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and as a member of the senate who is actively involved with this issue and cannot be impartial, you will be excluding yourself from any of the senate hearings on these issues, right?

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Originally Posted By: Goriom
and as a member of the senate who is actively involved with this issue and cannot be impartial, you will be excluding yourself from any of the senate hearings on these issues, right?

There is no requirement under KGB law that I do so. I will operate in accordance with my Oath, the KGB Code of Conduct, and the under the provisions of the KGB Constitution, as should all citizens of the KGB.


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Originally Posted By: Mug
I am with Tamlin here. If the KGB BDO faction has mothballed and members chose to go to other guilds he should have the same right to go to the guild he is comfortable with.

KGB BDO has not been mothballed. KGB BDO is an Open Faction, but as posted above, it is still unlawful to attack KGB citizens in an Open Faction.


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I believe the best course of action is to recuse yourself from these hearings. It will give people more faith in the system.

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Originally Posted By: Goriom
I believe the best course of action is to recuse yourself from these hearings. It will give people more faith in the system.

If you believe that any action I take is contrary to either my Oath, the KGB Code of Conduct, or the KGB Constitution, you are free to file a complaint against me. Until then, I will act in accordance with my Oath, the KGB Code of Conduct, and the KGB Constitution, as should all citizens of the KGB.

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Being involved in the issue and then getting to rule on it looks pretty bad. I don't care if you can or cannot do your duties, you should recuse yourself simply because you have a vested interest in the outcome and are involved in the issue.

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I will not recuse myself because to do so would be a violation of my duties as a KGB Senator.

I have been a KGB Knight for over 15 years, since the early days of UO Siege Perilous. Much of the Law you now see was written with my assistance, much during my tenure as Chief Justice of the KGB Supreme Court. In matters of the Law, I defer to the High King, the KGB Supreme Court, but to few others.

My duty is clear, and I will carry out my duty to the best of my abilities.


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Originally Posted By: Owain


Even though BDO is no longer an official KGB faction at this time, being a KGB Knight is not a part time job.



JetStar has communicated in two threads that the BDO faction has been mothballed. One post is right below this one.

http://oracle.the-kgb.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/137211/1

Inactivating the forum category for BDO is a pretty clear indication.


All of the communication from BDO Leadership to the membership has previously used language that indicates that BDO is no longer a KGB Faction.


I'm sure it will be a lot of "I mispoke".



I'm very sad about these attacks on me. I'm sad about the unfair spin some members are putting in their posts here.


I realize, of course, that I am completely unequipped to combat Owain's backroom politicking. He has found a cause, however unjust, and has doubled-down.


I am not a forum warrior.

I have no experience with playing politics.

I don't expect to win this fight that Owain has manufactured.

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Lets all stay calm. We are discussing this, and noone wins. I am reading all threads involved.


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Originally Posted By: Owain
I will not recuse myself because to do so would be a violation of my duties as a KGB Senator.


I disagree. I believe recusing yourself is doing your rightful duty as a member of the KGB senate. I am not just picking on you, I would ask that of any senator that has been directly involved in an issue.

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I have been a KGB Knight for over 15 years, since the early days of UO Siege Perilous. Much of the Law you now see was written with my assistance, much during my tenure as Chief Justice of the KGB Supreme Court. In matters of the Law, I defer to the High King, the KGB Supreme Court, but to few others.

My duty is clear, and I will carry out my duty to the best of my abilities.


I am grateful that you have helped write the laws in which we follow and I really don't want to get into this whole Living document vs original intent debate but I think its time we update some rules and not be so uncompromising,

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