The KGB Oracle Forums General Public Discussion (SPECIAL ACCESS) KGB Political Debate Central Food Stamps benefits cut

You make a good progressive but you cant fool me. No matter
how many times you repeat yourself, I will not be against
social programs.
It seems about 70% of what you say and argue comes from false
assumptions, just like a good progressive.

That is a super progressive prediction. I have to say sorry
about the cut and paste comment, you can come up with your
own bullshit all by yourself.

Here is a prediction for you. The 40 billion will be cut
from the program over 10 YEARS. During those 10 YEARS the
economy will improve and move millions of people off the
program. This will mean billions not needed in the system.
The progressives will then need to go on to another subject
and cry foul.

That's one big difference between us and you. We think that people who can support themselves will when they are made uncomfortable in their dependence. You think that sans the government "support" they will all turn into criminals.

No, they won't all turn to crime. Small percentage will, but that will be enough to negate miniscule savings of cutting social nets. We are not even talking principle here - the view of saving taxpayer dollars by cutting social nets is fundamentally unsound and goes against the well-established facts.

You can believe what you want. The difference between you and me is that you prefer believes and I prefer facts.

http://pun.sagepub.com/content/3/1/43.short
http://works.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1052&context=john_donohue [pdf]

But obviously every ideologically pure conservative knows we always been at war with Eurasia should cut social spending to save money.

I can't be bothered to look at your "facts." I have a logical brain that realizes that you cannot possibly create more spending by confiscating funds from the market, deducting a percentage for overhead or what have you, and then doling the left overs in the form of government assistance than 100% of those dollars would have generated in the market in the first place.

You continue to hold fast to your beliefs and we'll continue to rely on common sense and reality.

You and entire conservative movement. This is why fundamental christians were such good fit into your tent - it is all post-truth faith and turtles all the way down.

Sayeth the Pot to the Kettle.

The only way a progressive can win an argument is to change and lie about what someone says.

Yes Hele, I clearly fabricated entire thing - the research, the poor... It was all a UN conspiracy, but now that you have seen through it we have no choice but to bring in the black helicopters.

False equivalence. Not that I expect you to pay any attention to inconvenient facts and hold your side in any way accountable/anchored in reality. Your side is 1 inch away from starting to claim that Romney did win after all.