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Re: What Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions? Sini #119397 06/13/13 02:07 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,174 Likes: 1 Oklahoma Wolfgang KGB Supreme Knight
Wolfgang KGB Supreme Knight Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,174 Likes: 1 Oklahoma	Originally Posted By: Sini It isn't just one life. You have to also consider mother. Quote: For example, would you volunteer to live in misery and poverty, give up ability to work, give up educational opportunities? Why not? This is not unlike what you are asking from single women when you deny abortions. I know 4 women that I went to high school with that had children at 16 & 17 years old. One of them was on the verge of being homeless. Three of those 4 are doing above average they had went to college and have a very good life for themselves. The 4th one married a farmer, and lives an average life. Considering how much of a DIRE situation they were in in their teens. To think people tighten their belts and toughen up. Damn them for choosing life! Quote: Start talking about how to make women not want/need to have abortions (e.g. sex ed, social support) maybe you will be taken seriously when you also bring up abortions. As such, it is easy to make ideological statements when you have no skin in the game. Your right, no skin off my ass. I wouldn't have to live with the fact I had a living being killed. Last edited by Wolfgang; 06/13/13 02:08 PM.

Re: What Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions? Wolfgang #119409 06/14/13 07:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,528 Likes: 10 Sini OP KGB Supreme Court Justice KGB Paladin King's High Council
OP Sini KGB Supreme Court Justice KGB Paladin King's High Council Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,528 Likes: 10	Originally Posted By: Wolfgang Just so you all know, I think a woman that was raped and wanted an abortion is up to her. However in saying that I think there's a certain amount of time to get it done. I DO NOT support late term abortions PERIOD! Only in very dire life threatening need should that EVER be done. Then we don't conceptually disagree, just coming from different perspectives. I don't think late term abortions in any way or form are desirable, I'd be up for outlawing them with long list of exceptions (health risks to mother, fetus defects, rape, incest and so on). Anything less than late term - it should be available and accessible. Denying that only steers women to shady operators and puts them into harms way.

Re: What Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions? Wolfgang #119435 06/14/13 04:48 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,876 Likes: 10 France Arkh KGB Supreme Court Justice KGB Supreme Knight
Arkh KGB Supreme Court Justice KGB Supreme Knight Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,876 Likes: 10 France	Originally Posted By: Wolfgang Originally Posted By: Arkh Originally Posted By: Wolfgang Lifes hard=kill yourself Now that's some progressive logic. I guess when you're not a fetus and old enough to decide for yourself that it's better to live. Rather than having someone else decide that your life will be to hard and death would be far better than life. If progressives followed their own logic the world population wouldn't be where it is. Oh no, I have to work hard in order to get something... WHY LIVE! Silly progressive, LIFE is always worth living! Until a baby has developed a brain, it is just a tumor in a woman uterus. And there's a big difference between suicide and never being born: in one case you can't regret anything. Are you against masturbation also? Or do you harvest all your semen and give it to some sperm bank as to not waste potential lives? But it's a tumor that is growing into life, putting it that way. Sperm is just a seed that can only produce life when a female egg is fertilized. It's like having half the recipe to make something. Or to put it this way, If an atom were missing protons,neutron or electrons it wouldn't be an atom anymore. So As long as my seed doesn't fertilize and egg it's isn't growing a living being. Just so you all know, I think a woman that was raped and wanted an abortion is up to her. However in saying that I think there's a certain amount of time to get it done. I DO NOT support late term abortions PERIOD! Only in very dire life threatening need should that EVER be done. Then if you are pro-life and care only about the children, put your money where your mouth is: pay for the mother care until a little after the birth and make everything so it is adopted by a caring family. Even if it has some birth defects. I'd like to know how many pro-lifers adopt children with shit conditions (Down syndrome, handicaped etc.).

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