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Not sure how anyone can complain if they are doing an actual beta test before launching. Seriously, do you remember the last launch. Anytime put testing with real players is good for the game in the long run. Also, launching with Steam is a good play. With all the bitching about no marketing last time around, you can't get any better than being on Steam.

I was much more inclined to skip the launch because there was no beta, at least now I will know the actual state of the game before I put down any money.

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I registered on their forums in 2003. I applied for a beta key in 2004 when they supposedly had a playable demo, there was a cool looking video, etc. I got my beta key one week before beta closed due to changing email addresses a few times in the interim. I sat there and hammered the server to buy a copy of the game at EU launch; I ended up with ticket number 37.

The point of all of this is simply to say: be patient. If you are so upset by a delay of a couple months, you may not have the attention span for this game. I'm sure we are all playing other games and doing other things. Just keep doing them, and be ready to call in sick a couple days when it pops.

I'm going to predict March 2013. The beta might last the whole time. They seem to attach significance to certain dates.


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I'm sure nobody will be surprised that I agree with Cheerio above. The new game still looks sick. Just carry on with whatever was occupying you before until they release.


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My take was "OMG we actually got on Steam" , so they managed to convince their financiers to extend them more time using the plausible argument that a better launch on Steam will generate far more revenue than a crappier launch without.

Being on Steam gives them a shot at a real playerbase of new players, ones who will likely be far less forgiving of game breaking flaws than us old skool MMOers. Makes sense that they dont want to screw it up.


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Originally Posted By: Derid

Makes sense that they dont want to screw it up.


Don't want to screw it up...again.

DFO was still the worst-launch-game of my gaming history, (including all the SOE titles I've played, and SB with it's initial 5-minute lag-pauses, etc.) DFO was so buggy and unrefined when it launched that I thought it was a joke (other than the $$$ I put out for it.)

That aside, my main question mirrors Morlander's: is this a head-start, or a Beta that's going to get wiped? If DFUW is even close to the grind that DFO was, then I don't even want to touch it until release. (Burn-out factor = high.)

P.S. - Tasos is a complete tool, and I can't believe any of you are defending him. Defend the game, and the general team working on it, but never, ever that incompetent, arse.


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Originally Posted By: Derid

Makes sense that they dont want to screw it up.


Don't want to screw it up...again.

DFO was still the worst-launch-game of my gaming history, (including all the SOE titles I've played, and SB with it's initial 5-minute lag-pauses, etc.) DFO was so buggy and unrefined when it launched that I thought it was a joke (other than the $$$ I put out for it.)

That aside, my main question mirrors Morlander's: is this a head-start, or a Beta that's going to get wiped? If DFUW is even close to the grind that DFO was, then I don't even want to touch it until release. (Burn-out factor = high.)

P.S. - Tasos is a complete tool, and I can't believe any of you are defending him. Defend the game, and the general team working on it, but never, ever that incompetent, arse.


the grind is advertised to be a lot less
(i dont plan to character build in a beta)
and as foir tasos the game is his vision ...
simply put i have yet to see any other developer come up with a game that compares
fact is hes the force behind this game and if you have any
respect for the game you should realize that his place is key

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Most visionaries throughout history are douchebags from a likability stand point.

I agree with the sentiment above regarding beta. I probably will hold out for the actual release because I don't see how they can allow all these players into the beta and then have any credibility with the steam players without a wipe.

Fast grind or no... I'm not doing it twice.


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i will get into the beta and report back to y'all


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Has to be a wipe. We can gather lots of information.


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can we make a private google doc or something to record our findings? and another one to input coords of monster spawns etc?


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