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I could get behind that. Taxing the bottom 20% really does not generate much in terms of absolute revenue, but does have an asymmetric negative push on their finances.

I too find no fault with this. Make it happen!!

This is how compromise suppose to work. Write your representatives to remind them!

the only serious proposal i read was personal deduction 25k, family of 4 60k (i think) 17% on everything after that

whoops. that was steve forbes back in 2000 i think

ok here we go http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress/forbes_flat_tax.html

it doesnt say what the personal is, but a family of 4 has a 36k deduction. it should probably be higher.

on a related note, this study needs to be redone. http://www.cato.org/research/pr-nd-st.html

It get tedious to agree on everything.

Just to make sure we are on the same page, when you say flat tax, you mean FLAT TAX ON EVERYTHING, including dividends and benefits taxed as income, right?

You are a mindless drone.

I feel like I should remind you Obama had 18 months of a majority house & Senate. He barely was able to get Obamacare passed, not because of republicans as you Obamanites like to believe, there were 5 or 6 democrats that voted against it.

Then after the Dems lost the house majority Obama had a chance to be a REAL leader. Of course he didn't, so the rest if history. Obama is a fucking joke as a leader.

Wolfgang, do you see "real leader" capitulating to GOP hostage-taking? When most GOP signed "I will not negotiate" pledges? When GOP machine explicitly stated that their goal is to defeat Obama first, everything else second?

Well if the President met with you and you gave him a "wish list" and he told you that your party lost and that wasn't going to happen. Don't you think that show's some serious disrespect, Who cares that they signed a pledge, people sign shit everyday but still negotiate. Obama is as guilty or more so than anyone with the failure at not getting to the negotiating table.

How many meetings have you heard of them having??? A REAL leader would have gotten it done. Actions speak louder than words, Obama's actions towards the republicans was of disrespect. He never tried to gain their respect because he didn't want it. Look at every strong leader through-out history you will find they didn't like a lot of their counter parts, but they were able to respect them enough to work with them. Look at the man I have on my Signature, General George Patton. He was a hated man, and he hated some of the people he worked with. But he was still able to get the job done. As a President your role is to be THE LEADER.