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I am not sure if you are aware, but budget can only originate in the House. Senate cannot initiate it. President cannot initiate it. The Fed cannot initiate it.

Democratic budget proposal is where it always been - not getting any hearing/voting in the GOP controlled House.

I read couple from the list (wetlands bill... what is your point?) and have not seen bills that passed house, stalled or failed in senate.

lol, sinji, yes in the past the senate has put forth a budget, the same as the white house, and congress.

Congress does control the purse strings but anyone can submit a budget.

Also you ask for proff, and then when proff is provide you ask for something different. Throw out smoke screens much?

This is fine example (and I didn't have to look hard) of fine legislative work GOP House produces.

Damn you Derid. I was happy in my ignorance... ;)

Enacted Laws
There are 153 enacted bills and joint resolutions so far in this session of Congress.
How can you possibly be expected to know what is legal and what is not when Congress is passing laws faster than you can read them?

Passed Resolutions
There are 613 passed resolutions so far in this session of Congress (for joint and concurrent resolutions, passed both chambers).
I'm so glad that my representatives have this much free time to participate in the national popularity contest that our politics has devolved into.

At the President
There are 21 bills that are awaiting the president's signature.

Active Legislation
There are 333 bills and joint/concurrent resolutions that had a significant vote in one chamber and are likely to get a vote in the other chamber.
Yay, more for the "dear god, how many new laws do I have to read?" pile.

Inactive Legislation
There are 10,402 bills and resolutions that have been introduced, referred to committee, or reported by committee and await further action.
Really? Over 10,000. There are only 500 some odd folks "serving" in the Senate and the House. This is ridiculous. We need to bring these worthless bastards home, let them telecomute for voting and debating purposes, have them be locally answerable to their constituents, and decentralize the lobbying/law writing machine in D.C.

This is not how I understand this process.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Budget_and_Impoundment_Control_Act_of_1974
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_and_Accounting_Act_of_1921

Thanks for proving that your method of posting random links and then blaming the reader for not reading them doesn't work on you either.

4th sentence from your link Sinji:
This act meant that for the first time, the president would be required to submit an annual budget for the entire federal government to Congress

6th sentence:
The act created the Bureau of the Budget, now called the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), to review funding requests from government departments and to assist the president in formulating the budget.

8th sentence:
From the director, the estimates go directly to the president and from the president, directly to Congress.

Do you even read your own links?

The House on Wednesday night unanimously rejected an alternative budget proposal based on President Obama's 2013 budget plan, dispatching it in a 0-414 rout. White House officials said Rep. Mick Mulvaney (REPUBLICAN-S.C.), the sponsor of the alternative, was using Obama's top-line spending and revenue numbers as a budget proposal, without any specifics.


What is your point? That Republicans in the house can engage in political theater? We already know that.

Yes. Here is how I understand the process:

President proposes outline, house approp. committee uses outline to create budget bill, house votes on it, senate votes on it. Any steps out of this order take whole thing back to approp. committee and are pointless.