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why is it that when we bring up christianity or other western values we always have include a caveat? "the inquisition was so bad", "the pope said gays are bad" or some such garbage?

i refuse to qualify my defense of western civilization. socialists and communists never say "mao and stalin starved millions of people to death implementing socialism, but i still think its a great idea", do they? fuck no, they dont.

examine the title of this thread, the story i linked, and sinijs posts. he is defending a pedophile. talk about your sharia law defenders, sheesh

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You are right, we do attach caveat to our religion. This to me shows we have learned from our mistakes. We are willing to move beyond them, and strive todo the right thing. To me not includeing it would be to sink to thier level of hypocrisy. By putting it up front I am able to take away some of their ammo in a discussion.

As a father, with 3 daughters, this truly sickens me. However if the age of consent is 17, then the law is restricted in its actions. The law can and should be changed to reflect not religions view of this, but the fact, if you can not drink, till 21, smoke till 18, or drive a vechile till 16, sex is just as harmful and just as life changing as any of these. A legal adult is 18, and I feel sex should have this limation also. I am not navie in thinking this will stop anything, but as a parent it gives me the ability to use the law to protect my kids, even for only anthoer year.

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Originally Posted By: Cheerio
flying spaghetti monsters, satanism, etc have no such track record.


I have to disagree with you, both have much better track record than Christianity or Islam.


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Originally Posted By: sinij
Originally Posted By: Cheerio
flying spaghetti monsters, satanism, etc have no such track record.


I have to disagree with you, both have much better track record than Christianity or Islam.


what track record is that? straight answer please.


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Where to start... lets go with recent.

Anti-evolution, anti-science organization with a track record of pedophilia scandals. I don't even have to look at the history or social issues.


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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21392345/

i think you do, since teachers molest more than priests, and i havent seen you rail against them

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_evolution#section_2

i know, its wikipedia, but the chart is informative. a majority of catholics, jews, orthodox, buddist, hindu, and protestants believe in evolution.

galileo, newton, einstein, kepler, leibnitz, ben franklin, hooke, copernicus, boyle, bacon, faraday, pascal, darwin, and a majority of scientists working today are all wrong and you are right. such arrogance, such... faith you have!
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/24/opinion/la-oe-masci24-2009nov24


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