hey guys with permission from leadership i would like to lead a pvp practice tonight at 7pm cst. if i'm not wanted to lead one as a regular member i understand and will delete this post.

areas for this practice.

1v1 in 4 forms
1)melee
2)archery
3)mage
4)free use of all.
(this is for general practice to get to know each others styles to help improve any and all aspects of pvp as possible)

2v2 in 2 forms
1)full out fight support each other and kill
2) 1 fight other only heal/buff (2 fighters only fight the other fighter. the healer/buffers only heal/buff nothing else)
( this is to work on working together and also work on peoples cross healing and ability to heal in middle of battle. healing moving target takes alot of work to get good at. getting to know ur partner/allies play styles and ability to learn there fighting habits and movements will help to anticipate how they will react in a fight maybe giving u a edge on healing on the go.)

full group vs group in 2 forms
1)inner city battle like we have done before around the mage/church area.
2)full city attack 1 group leaves the city boarder for a set amount of time that the defending team won't know. when told the attacking team will then use there organization skills to work together to breach the city walls and capture and hold a set point within the city. then they will need to exit and get away safely. this simulation will represent our normal defences when we get hit and the set point will be the representing the bank. basically i want us to learn to work together in both defence and attack to get to the ending goal (successful defnece or attack of the target). being as i want this to be as real as possible i won't be fightin i will be monitoring. when a person dies they are able to be rezz. i will monitor the dead. everyone make sure it is all bagged and labeled.

there is 2 ways to handle regearing for the defenders.
1)u guys can grab new gear bag and not be allowed to put it on til u get to the point which represents the bank in our simulation.(this to keep the simulation realistic being as when u respawn u will have to reach the bank (destination set) to get ur gear then get away to regear and jump in the fight.)
2)i can grab and hold ur gear and after u respawn u come to me and trade me to get ur bag u were using. ( would be standing in the set bank location and represent the bank for u to get ur bag and get away to regear.
3) i can set a clan strong box in the set point and when u die and get ganked or tap out i will grab ur stuff and put it in the strong box and u will need to respawn and get it out the strong box urself. (this works great but if we inclue our allies that live regularly in andruk they won't get access to the clan strong box. but at that point if needed i cn become the bank for outside kgb access so they can join the similation without pause). this we can talk about before this part of the practice starts.

I want this to be a realistic as possible. defending team can regear attacking can not. just like any attack we ever have we can regear and continue to fight back attackers can't. all they can do is stay focus and rezz when ever possible without sacrificing the mission. main rule is noone is allowed to loot but me to allow people to regear at the bank set point. if for some reason someone loots and i find out about it i will deal with it. if any items are lost cause someone desides to be retarted and loots and doesn't speak up i will replace what is lost at my expense. please keep this to no higher then r40's and plate and lower no infernal and crap. just stuff u guys would be grabbing out of the bank for a andruk city defence.

You have my blessing. If we all wait around for someone else to make us better, we'll never get there.

ty kaotic
i am hoping to be able to lead these on a regular basis couple times a week or something and i'll alos try and do some for the mornin crew aswell. I just want to see how it all goes tonight. this is a learning experience for me aswell. i want to mainly monitor this round to see how it all goes and hope to find things that might help increase the amount we can learn from each practice.

i just hope we have enough to make atleast 2 full groups in the practice to make the final fight a good one.

Give it a go... I will try and be around for it, but I maybe busy.

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Darka had a pvp practice planned, but information of an incoming siege called it off last week. And I'm for practice, but in a limited time frame, because as much as we all need to practice staying together healing/buffing we also need to be beating on mobs with magic,melee and arrows to level. Also, 7-9 pm cst is primetime and we get raided a lot in this time frame.

Most people in clan know what to do, yes being repetitve helps. But we just need to stick with basics. Heal/buff other, don't go out solo. Don't start running into the enemy one at a time. When someone say's "The enemy only has a quarter life left" don't go balls out and try to be a hero since most of the time that person has people around that are healing him or he's healing himself.

People hear that someone is nearly dead and they run in with their pants down and die. And that is a vicious circle that needs to stop. Call out that someone is low, but go in betting on that person is healed back to full. In fact, always go in like someone is at full health, that way you don't drop guard or expectations of the outcome of the fight.

Don't get this post wrong, we need to practice I'm not saying we don't. We just need to do the things we are supposed to when it counts. Here's the things we need to be aware of. When we have high ground BET that the enemy is going to try to come hither people down to them. And if you're the one that gets pulled down, survive. Move in rapid movements back and fourth. Don't go into a straight line. Do whatever you have got to do to live. The longer someone survivies, the better it will be for us to be able to kill them. Because they will taste blood and focus on that person while the rest can focus them.

We also need to get people to raise their base attributes. Mine stone & Ore along with chopping tree's. Get that Vitality and Strenght up. A weapon mastery with good strenght increases the damage. Level magic and all damaging skills. We don't need to focus on just practice, that's something we can do in between the time were getting our skills leveled. I will try to be on, but it maybe a little later. I just got home, later than I usually do and I still have loads of laundry to do and I've got to run to the store.

yea i understand wolfgang and like u said 7-9 is prime time for us and us having a pvp practice at that time is a good thing cause we are organized and all geared. i remember the last practice we had when a group hit andruck and our 2+ groups jump the walls and they all shyt themselves. only one of my fights in my practice will possibly leave us a lil vulnerable is the ending battle with group vs group killing. but if u think about it having practice in town means most all kgb will be geared and rdy to fight instead of not having practice and half being in robes and stuff. i prob won't do it but 1-2 times a week this can be discussed and get it organized for us all to benifit from it without weaking us.

also with u sayin we need to be out killin mobs skillin up. yes i agree but u say it as if fighting a player u get no skill ups. it might not be as good but atleast ur still getting not only skill up for ur stats/skills but u get ur pvp skill tuned up.

lol Ok.

looks like i'll need to talk with a few and find a good time to hold this cause yesterday with server going down and comin up at 7pm. then after 2 1v1 we got hit by vamp and that kind of broke the practice up.
i'll try and get a time good for all with lower chance getting gettin interuption.

Saturday or sunday around 1 to 4ish would be ideal. Seems like those are the times that we would be interrrupted the least.

ty wolfgang maybe i'll try and set it up for sunday i'll talk to wife and make show we don't have anything goin on.

Just gonna throw this out there PvP practice is good, but i might be wrong in this so correct me if i am. PvP "practice" against other people you play with day-in-day-out really in my opinion is only gonna make you better to a point the real practice should be going out in leather or studded and finding PvP fight against foes. That is real practice, in real time fights not a simulated fight.
If any of you have been in some sort of military you would know you can practice all you want, but if you go into a war time senario it will be totally different from what you practice.

Just throuwin that out there and by no means am i trying to shit on anyones initiative so please dont take it the wrong way.

Fixed

decon i totally agree with u and i had planned for after my practices to go out and hit some enemy cities or something. since we have everyone together geared and in a pvp mind set i think it is only right for us to go out and test everyone on what they absorbed in the practices and see what they learned.

like the point decon was tryin to make practicing with our own members and city allies can only make us good to a certain point. getting to know other city layouts, battlefields, map terrian, and many other things outside andruk will make u even better. cause u never know if we are gonna end up seiging that person and if u know the city inside and out u will know where they will go to hide. u will know where there strong points and where there weak points are and use them against them.

like i have said in other posts about beig a good leader is being able to anticipate ur enemies move. not knowing ur battlefield will only hurt ur ability to lead efficiantly and successfully. not knowing there strong points they they will run to and try to hold only helps them more because when u roll in u don't know that if u order ur mean to go in and directly west and all line the walls or middle lvl point to get u more viable grounds to fight from rather on the ground wondering how to get up to them before everyone dies to them raining nukes and arrows at u. for instance taquila player city ne side map forgot name the island up there not in game to check lol. if u tryed to lead a siege on that without knowing the layout is basically instant doom 100%. the maze of corridors and bridges above the clan stones leaves so many options for both the attacker and defender. more options u know about the more ur able to counter because i can garrentee u the defenders know them all.

i have seen zerg's nearly wipes clean from 1-2 full groups because they came in from top side and snaked down the bridges and nuke everyone standing around the clan stone tryin to take it. and being as noone know how to get up to the point they were at they nearly succeeded and souly defending the city from quite a few full groups. had the leaders know the layout they could have easly launched a flanking wave and kill the 2 groups of defenders easy.