I am a little concerned about the state of KGB in Planetside 2. It seems when it was first announced everyone was talking about it and couldn't wait to play.

Now it seems, with only a month to go, no one could care less. I can understand with the release of Guild Wars 2 quite a bit of players went over there no problem,

There just doesn't seems to be any stucture for Planetside 2, when every other KGB game there was, especially this close to live.

Perhaps I am missing all the posts and nightly meet ups to get ready for the game and if I am, then disregaurd this post.
Also I hope not to offend anyone, just want to play some Planetside 2 in the name of KGB.

It's the curse of SoE that is keeping a lot of people away from this title. When you shit the bed as hard as SoE has over the last decade its hard to get the core to come back to be burned one more time. In addition to the SoE curse, you have other games that have come out that feed the need for FPS without all the time sink that PS2 is going to suck out of you if you want to be even remotely competitive on a regular basis.

I think this has mostly to do with the fact that the person who was driving PS2 initiative burned out even before the game shipped.

No, get your facts straight and don't make assumptions about what you don't know. As I made abundantly clear, I will lead no faction that is not supported by the guild or it's leadership, and I will not lead a faction where I am disrespected and ridiculed by those who do not have the balls to stand up and lead one themselves, instead can only seem to find the time to whine, bitch, or criticize the effort. I will not do favors for the guild, nor those members who see those actions as being okay, I have given my offer of service and have had (on multiple occasions) my face slapped by many. As I said, you want a PS2 Faction, then you lead it. I fight while you talk.

Its time to let the SoE hate die. They are making lots of positive changes. The most positive change for me is the way they are communicating with players. I dont know any other company who has communicated this much with the fan base. Can you guys think of one? Another thing they are doing is actually advertising there product unlike before. Did we even see advertising for any SoE pc product prior to planetside2? I know social media is helping a great deal in this but still I'm impressed. Yes it may take time to get your player customised how you want it in ps2 but you can be Battle Rank nothing and still be competitive. I know its beta still but I go to school full time, work in a salaried position, and have a family and I can still manage to log in and get into the action. Im happy that GW2 is doing so well and I hope we can implement that same model in PS2. To do this we need someone who will be a good leader who also has a deep interest for the game which I know drak does. I dont know the facts but can we move past the h8 please and direct it towards the other factions in ps2? Every friday night they are doing spotlights on different guilds involved in ps2 wouldnt that be cool to have a KGB recognized as a kickass outfit to be a part of? That is all for now. Peace.

Yes. Everquest, Everquest 2, DC Online. All were heavily advertised. It isn't about the developers at SoE, its about the business people, namely John Smedley who is still running things for PS2, was responsible for SWG and EQ2 debacles. It's warranted caution from a business group that is known to blow up AAA titles after about a year post launch with crappy business decisions that ruin the game due to downward pressure on the developers.

We are getting quite a following and lots of recruits in GW2. I think that translates into some new blood for KGB over the long term and possibly with the release of PS2 and other upcoming games.


Perhaps a fresh front page article and non-member chat message might catch the eye of some of the new recruits, I know you have done update from time to time just saying maybe time for another.

As you can imagine, I strongly disagree. Leadership is tough, and as you know, there is little respect offered and it is always a thankless job.

I always do my best to support faction leadership as much as possible. I don't want to revisit this, but there was a new movement that only active members should have a say in this organization. This is something I strongly disagree with. Involvement is cyclical in a 15 year old organization. Just because you have not played a game recently, does not take away from your contributions of the past, and everyone who has contributed should have a voice. Some folks allowed this to get heated, and I was uncomfortable with where it was going. In this case one of the parties left the organization, and there has been no additional discussion on this topic.

Not trying to kindle old fires (from the sounds of things), but I have to toss my 2 copper's in:

First off, I completely agree that Leadership is tough, and 99% thank-less. My hats off to those who take on these roles, because I'm getting to cranky/opinionated to do so. ;)

While I agree that all members are respected, and have a voice in the organization, only members Active in a specific official Faction should have an influencing role in that Active Faction.

So long as that Active Faction keeps its actions within the realm of the KGB Codes and Laws, and maintains the KGB image, then the active participants should be free to mold things to fit the needs/environment of that specific Faction. The active Faction's participating officers, and participating members should control the environment.

The peanut gallery will never have a clear picture of the live Faction's environment if they are not actively participating in it, thus they should not be affecting that Faction unless it falls under a violation of KGB Codes, Laws, etc.

/salute

I disagree Jet, everyone and I do mean everyone respects you or say Donk regardless of what you say or do, whether you fail or succeed, in anything you desire to push forward or make official. It is a double standard, and cannot be observed by those who garner such respect or honors so I would not expect anyone to really notice the negativity I endured as opposed to what they commonly receive. I would think actions speak louder than words and I have throughout my time here served in whatever capacity I could, and no matter what I've done here all I've received is 100% of the blame, or hostility, the worst part is as each person jumps on the bandwagon when the wagon does finally run me through it was 20 times heavier than it should. so how can that phenomenon be explained?

Well from my perspective only one way, I must be wrong or people must be kissing certain peoples ass, or both. Either way I lose so, I have refrained from trying to do any further damage, but as the H8 box shows when I do go quite people see their chance to twist that knife in deeper and I respond. So who's the real villain here? I can't see how it is me simply because I respond to the H8 being thrown at me. forget it...I'm going back to where the real fun is.

all this BS in this thread is exactly what I mean by being made the villain and getting slapped in the face.

With all due respect (And respect is due), you chose this path for yourself. You and several others engaged in the most heated and borderline joking in the history of this organization. Once you choose that path, it is hard to tell what is a joke and what is real. I saw this progress to the point that people left, and some friendships were damaged.

You cant have it both ways, and I dont envy your position at all.

As for me personally, I am a Drakiis fan despite some rough times between us.

As for my tenor as a leader, I have been through everything you can imagine. I have endured some of the worst betrayals you can imagine. From sabotage, to embezzlement, to outright theft, and some of the worst coup attempts you can imagine. It is a thankless job.

I can see this climate is no fun for you, and if I were you I would make a post that my guild friends could see and state the following:

"I have engaged in some serious teasing and questionable humor over the years and it is affecting my ability to enjoy my membership in this organization. I would ask all of my brothers and sisters to call it quits as I am going to when it comes to this kind of humor. I will treat you all with respect in word and deed if you would all offer the same back to me. I appreciate your understanding in this matter"

I would certainly respect something like this, and would encourage you to try it.

I know there is almost zero chance that you'd listen to this Drakiis, but really, nobody here is after you. You were one of the people trying to push for a change in how things are done, disagreements got heated and spiraled out of control. At this point this issue is done and over with. I really think you are confusing people disagreeing with people going after you.

What you went through is not that uncommon, I see it in young and inexperienced managers all the time. They get excited about possibilities and get big ideas they are eager to try, but then they forget that organization they are part of has its own organizational culture with a lot of inertia. Still, they push and push and end up breaking rudder.

Your example isn't limited to "young and inexperienced" leaders; this scenario is also often spawned by those who take the helm because they have the foresight to identify something in need of change, they think outside the box, or because they envision a more efficient/better methodology than staying the historic course; this is very relevant to new ventures.

Your illustration can traverse multiple paths. I've spent most of my working life in Enterprise environments, and have observed several outcomes to this scenario:

A) The outcome which you portrayed, in which the currents of the organization keep to the destined path and business continues as usual; anything fighting the currents eventually tires fighting it and either steps in line, or leaves.

B) Eager manager steps in and tries to make changes, but ends up either burning out, or leaving, and the Division eventually dies out: those proposed changes were exactly what it needed to retain interest/relevance.

C) Eager manager steps in and makes changes, which are accepted, and end up being exactly what the Division needed to persist/grow.

Etc.

My issues with certain people started long before the H8 box fiasco, and the goading there in. Case in point the words of a redeemed traitor or various arm chair aggressors and their hostile posts. Instead of a discussion my ideas were met with outright profanity, and when I defended them (because nobody else would) I was crucified and villainous, by those party to the conversation and those outside of the discussion siding with them. Receiving hate PM's concerning the discussion, directing me as at fault for my perspectives and personal opinions (of which I am apparently the only person here not allowed to have), or getting PM's of peace cloaked in friendship laced with blame and insinuating my downfalls or wrong doing.

This leading me to believe a Traitors word was well received more so then my own good standing word, and that a good nature effort for change was unwelcome as opposed to the willful and unflinching dogma of the stubborn tyrannical view points commanded by a knight/s of equal rank. I bow before no one, lest it be Jet or Romes, and to assume I should shows them a spoiled bully, or those attempting to have me capitulate and fall to my knees in supplication a ignorant wretch unworthy of knighthood in MY OPINION. All that was asked is that I be given voice in some cases, or offer ideas in others, and nary a kind word be offered, nor encouraging would it be, and if in disagreement then let it be simply so no need for further poisoned words. My how quick were they to feast upon my bones to see my fall. Poetics aside, there are only two ways I'd lead any faction, especially PS2 now, both of which I highly doubt possible and both of which I leave you all to contemplate.

I thank those of you with kind words, especially you Jet.

I cant contemplate that which I do not know or understand.

I didn't mean to kindle old flames and the post was more of a question whether or not there will be a stuctured enviornment like Guild Wars 2 currently is.

The OP was not typed very well and was more accusatory than I thought while typing. I guess I just love the hype KGB gets about games close to release and tried to see if there were others w/ that feeling playing planetside 2.

My being ever so naive about the entire backlog of the situation, whatever members from KGB are playing planetside 2 I plan to play with and can't wait to do so.

Basically I'm saying use your own imagination, if anything I've said means anything to you then I am sure you'll know what I'm talking about or what I'm looking for from KGB. I will attempt to attend this PS2 meeting, if I haven't already missed it, but do not expect much of a voice from me, I'll be there to represent a Signal Post to the things that were, while I look to see what things become, and the expectations or duties placed upon me as a simple Knight. Because I will not be a party to anymore issues, I have enough in my own life.

I am scheduling the meeting when I return for this coming week.