The KGB Oracle Forums General Public Discussion (SPECIAL ACCESS) KGB Political Debate Central GOP - the party of the rich

While I was at the Postal Service I seen it both ways. There were several people with a lot of education that could make just as much money using their degree's as sorting mail using a machine. However there were more that could barely read or speak in complete sentences without using slang or whatever gibberish they were talking.

I acquired a skilled labor while I was in high school through Vocational Technical Training. I'm using that skill now and it seems there's HUGE lack in skilled labor. I can just about go to any place where there's manufacturing and get a job welding. With my experience I could ask for top pay and most likely get it because of the lack of people wanting to get into the welding field. Plus I have 12 years of Flux core and hard wire welding as well as 6 years of Submerged Arc welding 1/8 inch wire.

If they allow that Keystone pipeline to come through, I can go get more pipe welding training. Then get in line for the $150K a year pay. That's what they are paying for experience field pipe welders.

... and we all enter land of rainbows and unicorns.

You are funny man. What do you think will happen to teachers, police, border guards and all other "some bureacrats" if you cut their jobs in this economy? That's right kids, they will all go on the UI dole for next couple years. Plus they will further clamp down on consumer spending. Deficit goes up, social outlays go up and taxable income goes down.

One hell of a "recovery" you are going to end up with.

Then start suggesting ways to make "gas station workers and burger flippers" a survivable wage occupation. You know, like affording health insurance that won't be offered with minimal wage shit jobs.

they already had a job, you decided they should get a new one.



point taken, good show Sir.

The hard truth is, if this is all you can do, then oh-fucking-well. Get two jobs. I've done it. Hell I've had three at one time because that's what it took to feed myself. If someone isn't willing to work then he doesn't get to eat, period, end of story. If this hurts your feelings or makes you want to run crying to your mommy, then so be it. The truth hurts. Life's not fair. Even our poorest citizens are the wealthiest 1% of the world.

This is the same false argument that Drakiis just made and was refuted. I'm not the one living in rainbows and unicorns land. Perhaps the border guards are federal employees, but since the government puts them in prison and grants immunity and citizenship to the criminals when the guards try to do their jobs, I'd imagine most of them would rather work elsewhere anyway.

"they already had a job, you decided they should get a new one."



I don't recognize your argument.

I assume from what you have been saying that all federal jobs should be totally worry free and if you have a federal job then you shall not lose it no matter what happens.

Welcome to Sinijland.

no, just saying you guys want people to change their job, your demanding people be fired or laid off..

Yes people get fired/laid off. Grats on pointing out the obvious

You as I said are saying fed jobs should be free of worry and no one should ever be laid off.

the bottom line of this thread is people want other people to lose their jobs.


Oh the sad state of humanity..

So letting the country go further into debt is better?

You make a good liberal, just say stuff that makes you look good and not worry about the shit that really runs the world.