The KGB Oracle Forums General Public Discussion (SPECIAL ACCESS) KGB Political Debate Central GOP - the party of the rich

so you are talking about cops serving McDonalds, and Mail Men, working at gas stations?

Take the Postal Service for example. If they privatize it they would be able to save most of those jobs they otherwise will cut. The pay may go down, then again does someone really need to make nearly $30 an hour for putting mail into a machine that sorts it for them?

Part of the reason for cutting spending in Government is to cut the waste, Canada has cut several things like Education, Wildlife & Fisheries as well as Environmental projects. Yet they have turned their debt issues around from the 1990's. Now we are in their place with debt and such. Cut spending and you cut waste, it's working for Canada! Right now there's a huge need for skilled labor such as Welding, Machinists, as well as other areas. Get some knowledge in those fields and you won't have to worry about finding a job.

If we need to cut back on Government then getting rid of workers will happen. I don't want to fire them but give me the power and you will see a lot of pink slips.

Cops are local Gov jobs(city,county,state) we are talking federal.
Mail jobs?? Lets find a company that loses as much money as the Post Office and see if they can survive. If they cannot break even or make a profit then they need to trim till they do. Which I believe the Post Office is now doing so after many years running in the red.

Gas station workers and burger flippers may not be high paying jobs but its better then Gov welfare, well to me it is.

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so now that those questions have been answered, would any of you settle for a job like McDonalds over your current jobs or a job yielding better benefits? Is it fair to ask it of others?

Well, for starters I'd never take a federal government job. But the fact is you're asking the wrong question. The correct question is, do two wrongs make a right? If not then the wrong of the government taking money from one person to "create" a job for another cannot be corrected by allowing the problem to propagate.

Having said all of that, if you're working for the government and the best job you can get afterward is flipping burgers at McDonald's then perhaps you were an overpaid leech with no skills to begin with.

FYI - this is why people with doctorates in English still work at Starbuck's.

You don't think one american telling another american how to live and what job he can and cannot have is a bit of a self entitlement issue? Whereby you impose your beliefs and sense of fairness upon another based purely from your own perspective, using your own justifications. While trying to maintain the your argument using various vague common detractors to support it, much in the way a fortune teller supports her predictions using commonalities and suppositions.

Getting fired because the Government needs to cut back is the same as a company laying off.
If you support Government keeping everyone on the job even when they cannot afford to then you support yet another welfare program, one that I might add would be a very high paying welfare program that would be unfair to the rest of the welfare people who get 80% less in monies and benefits.

Who is telling anyone how to live and what job they can have???

Settle???? No.
You are assuming that my company is going to lay me off???
If so I would take what ever job I needed to to make money and work my way into a better job.

Is it fair to ask others to get a job. Yes it is.

I'm not telling anyone how they can or cannot live or what kind of job they must have. Anyone in this country is free to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't infringe upon my freedoms...like by taking money from me to give to someone else. So, if by "self entitlement" you mean that I want to decide what to do with the money that I worked hard for, then you're damn right I have a self entitlement issue. You'll have to forgive me for feeling entitled to the things that I work for.