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Since we have nearly 10x the population of Canada, you're probably 10x
more likely to run into some asshat who has decided to make a living by
taking from everyone else. Laws be damned.

Maybe Canada just has nicer folks in it

Example: Six were arrested TODAY for driving around my town and
shooting at folks, property and cars with pellet guns. :| Just
for laughs. . . This is the mentality of the folks we have to
deal with on a daily basis. They simply just DO NOT FUCKING
CARE about what the laws are.

Charges are Assault with a Deadly Weapon. . . . see how funny
they think it is now . . .

These are the kind of folks you just randomly run into. Without
some means to negate their stupidity, the best you can hope for
is that you survive it with minimal injuries. Some people are
just cruel.

Personally, I wish I didn't have to carry one. I wish I could
own a nice car without worrying that someone will destroy it
out of spite. I wish I didn't have to lock my doors, set the
alarm, lock the safe, and turn on the security lights and cameras.
I wish I could use my camera gear without fear of getting jacked
for it. I wish I didn't have to get up in the middle of the night to
investigate the odd noise from outside.

I really wish I just didn't have to worry about any of that shit.

Unfortunately, I do. Because there are some really shitty folks
on this planet who don't give two shits about you. They will
kill you just for the lulz. . . .

They are the reason I keep a firearm with me at all times.

So you think guns just go off for no reason, just because it's a gun? You do know a trigger has to be pulled right? So GUNS aren't the problem... the person BEHIND the gun is the problem. If someone wants a gun to do some kind of harm they will get it legally or not. Banning guns would do NOTHING except make a law abiding citizens completely helpless defending themselves. Criminals would love this!

I´m happy that in Brazil we cannot carry weapons on daily basis, if it was allowed every idiot would have the right to do it, forcing other idiots to carry it too. The level of education here is too low to allow that, here would end like old west USA.

That being the case, it shows what happens when the law abiding citizens cant protect themselves.

You didnt understand, they do not died from criminals. Most of the cases in Brazil both are law abiding citzens that lost their head with access to gun.

Mithus, can you give the links to the page you're quoting. It seems a lot of them are linked to some other papers which could be useful readings.

Arkh quotes are from several Brazilian websites in portugueses, in the end all resume to the thing.. guns do not kill, people do.

But Brazil reality is different from USA or Europe, so I can say Personaly, I feel safer with people not being able to carry weapons, I would be more safely if the trade of weapons were regulated and only people that have a special reason to protected theirself would be allowed to buy weapons, ATM anyone can buy an weapon and keep it at home.

Everything has its advantages and disadvantages, in time for the reality of Brazil would be better if you could not buy weapons, only with a special award by the government. If you have a weapon you would to avoid to be assaulted or killed at home? response is maybe...

For every legal self defense there are more cases of unjustified attacks by fireweapon in Brazil. I have to weight both cases, and I prefer to chose that one that offer less damage to society. It´s easier to be a "Macho" man with a gun in your the hand, than with your fist.

Brazil is the number ONE ..

number 1 in the world of deaths by fire weapons
number 1 in the world by death by automobile accidents
number 1 in politics corruption and get out without punishment.
number 1 in social inequality


Can we break this bad cycle?, only wih education of population, but seems our public education is not getting better, and people over and over again vote for the bad politicians.

Why is that? Promises or threats?

Educational level, it´s easier to manipulate people with less education level by a general rule, of course there are exceptions. Also there are politicans that using the legal system avoid arrest and are able to re-eletecd themselves.

Also the vote in Brazil is not only a right, but a duty, you cannot not to vote, so even people that do not care ending vote.