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#93301 - 10/05/11 02:13 AM Probably the dumbest thing possible...  
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Someone really nominated this bullshit. What a fucking joke the nobel prize has became.

As one of the comments said below the story, they should have given the peace prize to Seal Team Six!

http://www.newson6.com/story/15615093/ok...bel-peace-prize

#93302 - 10/05/11 02:18 AM Re: Probably the dumbest thing possible... [Re: Wolfgang]  
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They need to grab a rope for that piece of shit.


#93304 - 10/05/11 07:45 AM Re: Probably the dumbest thing possible... [Re: Prism]  
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For one time Wolfgang, I'll have to disagree.
Wikileaks and the whistle blowers giving documents are necessary.

Privacy is for individual people, not for government organizations or politician in office.

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#93310 - 10/05/11 11:09 AM Re: Probably the dumbest thing possible... [Re: Arkh]  
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I agree with Arkh's last sentence, but nothing either of those guys did has lead to "peace." If anything, what they did lead to the unnecessary deaths of more of our service men and women. There is a right way to go about securing information that the government wants to keep secret, and what they did isn't it.


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#93311 - 10/05/11 11:29 AM Re: Probably the dumbest thing possible... [Re: Kaotic]  
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no peace in the strict sense, but to change the attitudes of people and stop abusive behavior by the government, what sometimes wikilieks is good about call attention of people around the world for the disrespec about human rights.


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#93314 - 10/05/11 05:26 PM Re: Probably the dumbest thing possible... [Re: Kaotic]  
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Originally Posted By: Kaotic
I agree with Arkh's last sentence, but nothing either of those guys did has lead to "peace." If anything, what they did lead to the unnecessary deaths of more of our service men and women. There is a right way to go about securing information that the government wants to keep secret, and what they did isn't it.

Here is the thing you don't understand: even if you think you are the "good guys", even if you are, your nation started the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. So anything done to lessen your impact is a step toward peace.

I agree the Nobel prize for peace is given to anyone for any reason, but having a grudge against Manning or Assange for releasing things which should have always been accessible to the public like Tas does is something I don't like (you can breeze now).



#93316 - 10/05/11 09:11 PM Re: Probably the dumbest thing possible... [Re: Arkh]  
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I'm for the light being shined on shady things the Government does. To put out information about a war or war(s) we are currently holding operations in is pretty stupid. It puts lives even more at risk than already are being risked. If the war had been over and we were no longer there, fine release it. But to do that WHILE we are still active in military operations isn't right.

#93319 - 10/05/11 09:57 PM Re: Probably the dumbest thing possible... [Re: Wolfgang]  
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ASDF...do not get me started. Wrong Arkh, period and end of story, wrong. Manning needs to be DEAD. I personnal would enjoy being the hammer. He put American lives in danger and I do not care what the reason is for doing so, right, honorable, whatever.

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#93320 - 10/05/11 10:32 PM Re: Probably the dumbest thing possible... [Re: Vuldan]  
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For his outstanding courage and bravery in exposing war crimes, we the undersigned nominate Bradley Manning, Private First Class of the U.S. Army for the Nobel Peace Prize of 2011. We recognize that throughout history states, organizations and people fearing reprisals are reluctant to confront powerful, militarized states that commit war crimes. But a young man, Bradley Manning, acted on his conscience when others could not or would not do so.

A 22-year-old Army intelligence analyst, Pfc. Manning faces decades in prison for allegedly leaking a video of a US helicopter attack that killed at least eleven Iraqi civilians to the website Wikileaks. Among the dead were two working Reuters reporters. Two children were also severely wounded in the attack.

Bradley Manning, acted in accordance with the United States Uniform Code of Military Justice under which it is his duty to obey lawful orders but likewise he must refuse to obey orders that are in direct violation of the US Constitution. The leaks document war crimes.

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#93321 - 10/05/11 10:57 PM Re: Probably the dumbest thing possible... [Re: Mithus]  
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Its only a war crime if those civilians were TARGETED knowing they were civilians. I don't believe that was the case for one single fucking second. Our soldiers don't do things like that and then have it covered up by their superiors. If they do things like that then they get sent to Leavenworth.

I still disagree Arkh. Putting the soldiers fighting to protect my freedom in harm's way so you can get some headlines is ALWAYS unacceptable. If you have a problem with the wars there is a way to fix that without putting soldiers lives more at risk. VOTE OUT THE FUCKS THAT SENT US THERE!


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