The KGB Oracle Forums The KGB Great Hall of History (ARCHIVE) Darkfall Members Forum FAQ Discussion thread.

the unfortunate side to the using vent so much you dont read anymore (im in the same boat) is that in game chat is in your chat window only there is not chat bubbles so you will need to keep an eye on it or you will miss people talking to you

i dont limit the people id want to talk to by them being in my guild honestly or in vent.
you never know how yer gonna meet someone
i didnt meet kgb by being on vent with them
of course back then vent didnt even exhist ICQ ftw

Maybe I should have said anything that's important, and this primarily means while pvp'ing. I certainly still talk with people outside of Vent, but I find it a huge handicap to try and do group pvp while not in vent, I myself will not take the time to stop fighting and type out something and give precious opportunity away for kicking some ass.

Alfar having the most available targets to attack is a good first choice but I think we'll need to know racial stats etc before a final decision is made. Hence Derid suggesting we play all the races for beta to get a feel for whats the best!

I hate the "KGB plays the good guy" argument to decide what race we should play.
We play the good guy as the race we chose to play. It doesnt matter if we play human or alfar.
This game has set in bad guys by what you decide to play.

I wanted to try and explain my thoughts a bit more, since I have this bad feeling that my post will start a huge argument, and that's not my intent at all. Prepare for more rambling.

Alfar is the "evil" race. KGB has always been about protecting the innocent. If Alfar are evil, that means it will attract the hardcore PvPers and the people that want to roleplay evil, so what innocents are we defending?

When JetStar politics, he's always done so (from what I've been able to witness) from the platform of the righteous. That's worked very well for him and KGB, but has led to the perception of being a gankfest zerg guild full of newbies and underskilled wannabes. This perception combined with no righteous platform will make developing a good reputation hard to do, and end with much double-speak, backtracking, and rumor mongering.

Now, we know that there is skill in this guild. We know that the rap KGB has among the elite is bogus (maybe it was true in UO-SP, but it's damned sure not true anymore). I'm just forewarning that if we end up playing Alfar we're going to have to revise our guild statements (not code, or rules, or anything else, just statements) in order to get the respect that we deserve. If we play another race such as human or dwarf, then we're fine like we are, but Alfar WILL require adaptation.

Your honor is to my honor as his honor is to their honor and so on. Honor is subjective, loyalty to guild and allies is crystal.

SO I guess what I'm asking is what qualities do you espouse that makes you an "honorable" PvPer?

What stance would KGB need take in your opinion to lean a "little more towards honor".

Finally, what do you feel our "traditional" stance is?

Derid has adopted a stance for DFO that is almost controversially contrary to past stances the guild has adopted.

Please do keep in mind as well that I'm not criticizing, simply wishing for you to expand upon your statements so I might better understand.

Edit: Bleh! You edited and expanded upon your post while I was replying but still would be interested in your take. Thanks..