The KGB Oracle Forums The KGB Great Hall of History (ARCHIVE) Darkfall Members Forum Derid has been the man

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I want to get this going before beta starts as I need to start working on the UGC / PGC idea. If we can collect some like minded veteran organizations, I really feel we could be a force in DF.

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No surprise here! I think Derid would be an excellent HC and he has definitely been our DF guy thus far =)

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/agree with Garal

He's been an obvious choice for a long time. My only reservation is that many months ago I asked him if he'd want to be it and he was unsure about it. The Desire to lead is part of what makes a leader great, so my only question of him is, was he unsure because even though he had the desire to lead he couldn't say so far in advance if he'd have the RL time? or was he unsure because he just didn't really care much for the job?

As long as he desires it, I know he'd make a great choice, and hell, it's beta... we can even think of beta as a time to test him as the HC which is how our new constitution is set up anyhow with regular elections happening for the HC spot.

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No surprise here! I think Derid would be an excellent HC and he has definitely been our DF guy thus far =)

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/agree with Garal

He's been an obvious choice for a long time. My only reservation is that many months ago I asked him if he'd want to be it and he was unsure about it. The Desire to lead is part of what makes a leader great

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Those with the burning desire to lead are often selfish and will screw their own followers over to obtain their own objectives.

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Well, i would follow Derid WAY befor I would follow others, actually, if others were leading, I would not even play. I am not the only one, there have been numerous people say if certain people were leading, they would not play either and this comes from people that are high ranking and have been around from the start.

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Well, i would follow Derid WAY befor I would follow others, actually, if others were leading, I would not even play. I am not the only one, there have been numerous people say if certain people were leading, they would not play either and this comes from people that are high ranking and have been around from the start.

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I'd hope that you and whoever else you're mentioning would respect the decision Jet makes regarding faction leadership to at least give it a try.. not just in DF but in any other games to come in the future.

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That's like saying boycotting isn't a form of protest.. lol

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I'd hope that you and whoever else you're mentioning would respect the decision Jet makes regarding faction leadership to at least give it a try.. not just in DF but in any other games to come in the future.

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Rolf Owain that made me lol ;p

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/edit: Rofl, Rahl.

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Those two.... definitely make a pair!

I think you would be great Derid!

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No surprise here! I think Derid would be an excellent HC and he has definitely been our DF guy thus far =)

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/agree with Garal

He's been an obvious choice for a long time. My only reservation is that many months ago I asked him if he'd want to be it and he was unsure about it. The Desire to lead is part of what makes a leader great

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Actually, it's the opposite. Those with enough humility to see life through the eyes of their followers, have more empathy for them, and thus, know what it takes to inspire those followers through sincere objectives - all that is required is that they have the potential to lead, not the desire. Those with the burning desire to lead are often selfish and will screw their own followers over to obtain their own objectives. As a Knight, the former is much more preferrable than the latter - take this from a former Active Duty USMC Sergeant that put up with more spoiled Butter-bar Lieutenants than you can shake a stick at. The only good lower-ranking officers I've met were former enlisted that understood the life of a soldier from the ground up.

If Derid is unsure about taking up this position and not stepping on heads to get it - then he IS the perfect person for the job. The only other option I see it is to appoint Rahl.

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No surprise here! I think Derid would be an excellent HC and he has definitely been our DF guy thus far =)

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/agree with Garal

He's been an obvious choice for a long time. My only reservation is that many months ago I asked him if he'd want to be it and he was unsure about it. The Desire to lead is part of what makes a leader great

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Actually, it's the opposite. Those with enough humility to see life through the eyes of their followers, have more empathy for them, and thus, know what it takes to inspire those followers through sincere objectives - all that is required is that they have the potential to lead, not the desire. Those with the burning desire to lead are often selfish and will screw their own followers over to obtain their own objectives. As a Knight, the former is much more preferrable than the latter - take this from a former Active Duty USMC Sergeant that put up with more spoiled Butter-bar Lieutenants than you can shake a stick at. The only good lower-ranking officers I've met were former enlisted that understood the life of a soldier from the ground up.

If Derid is unsure about taking up this position and not stepping on heads to get it - then he IS the perfect person for the job. The only other option I see it is to appoint Rahl.

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Wow, Crim, since you were incredibly blunt to say what I just said was completely incorrect, I will not hesitate to return the favor.

You make a good point that a self serving leader is no leader at all, and my original statement said nothing contrary to this either... however, a statement like
"If Derid is unsure about taking up this position... then he IS the perfect person for the job."

Would have to be one of the most blatantly incorrect statements I've heard since Bush saying "Mission complete" for Iraq.

No great leader at any point in history ever had this discussion...
"Come'on Billy lead the army against the barbarians, the city is like gonna be taken over! You're a really great guy, and a super leader you should do it!"
*cheers from other friends*: "Yeah Billy, totally, do it dude! WE believe in you even if you don't!"
Billy: "Aaah gee guys, I just dont really want to lead, the moment I have to stay up an hour later than I usually do because I have to deal with some "team" issues I'm gonna be super pissed..."
Billy's friends: "No way Billy, You Can Do It! Hooray!"

Billy then accepted being general of the roman armies and went on to defeat the Gauls.

You'll have to excuse me, since I went to a Hawaiian highschool, but that historical conversation wasn't in our books.

Having the "potential" for great things is what every drug overdosed teen in America has. A billion times a day kids all over the US are said to have such great potential or to be "really smart". But you know why they all end up working at UPS? Because they Lack the DESIRE, to be something more. Humans are naturally tend toward laziness, if you don't have DESIRE to fuel you beyond this innate characteristic, then you become yet another one of the millions of people with "alot of potential". But sadly Potential doesn't feed the kids and potential doesn't stop your country from being overran by the enemy.

The desire to fight back, the desire to improve, the desire to drag you hairy ass out of bed at fucking 4:30 in the freezing morning hours of the day to get to work on time is what feeds your ungrateful kids that are just chaulk full of "potintial".

When Derid takes his proper place as H.C. for the DF I want him to fucking desire it, like leading this faction is the air he breaths! I want him to wake up in the morning and be like, Fuck going to work, the city in game needs ALOT of upgrades and I need to organize which buildings get it first and where the NPCs will be located. He NEEDS TO DESIRE IT like if it was a real life responsibility, that people's lives depend on him, their homes and farms (DF is supposed to have farms at some point) When he's eating his cheerios at breakfast I want him tasting the conquest he's about to help lead in Darkfall, it needs to be a taste he loves a taste he can't do without, an addiction that he thinks about all day, he must Desire it like the lucky score after a prom date.

There is not a single self-made successful person in this world who got that way because he had all the potential in the world... they had potential that they turned into success through the effort that desire produces. You must have that catalyst to move to a higher plane or else you're just a fat lazy body of Potential energy sitting in place wasting time and space.

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DFO is vaporware anyway WoW will be the next big game for the next two years

i am all for hooking up with combine too, just my two cents

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I want to get this going before beta starts as I need to start working on the UGC / PGC idea. If we can collect some like minded veteran organizations, I really feel we could be a force in DF.

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Jet, try to get in contact with Deyth of Combine, http://www.the-combine.com/vbulletin . Months back I proposed to our senate joining the private group he runs on his website which is comprised of all the top guilds, according to him, I haven't seen a user list for it yet. He is happy to give us an invite to his group.

Yeah yeah, I know, before anyone replies with, "Oh he'll invite US to HIS group, oh how honoured we are!" I dont see it like this though, he's already done some of the footwork of bringing established/known MMO guilds together so why not make use of this? Like I requested months ago, lets get a representative in there so that we at least know what server the big boys will be on. One of the largest challenges for me as HC back in WoW was picking which server. After a shit load of personal emails and message board trolling I picked Archimonde because as you saw, it was and will always be known as the server that had the real PvP guilds on it. But the coordination process can be made much easier if we join multi-guild groups like this one for discussion purposes.

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Thanks to those with words of support.

Its not resisting the position as such, I simply like planning and preparing for these kinds of things. Plus Syev's picture is scary ^_^

I plan on accepting at this point, as soon as I see Jet in Vent to discuss it with him. It looks like I will have the RL time to do it properly, unless something changes. It is excellent that KGB is starting to get this faction officially moving.

Heres to a successfull KGB launch in DFO

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Rock on! I'm glad you accepted the position.

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Thanks to those with words of support.

Its not resisting the position as such, I simply like planning and preparing for these kinds of things. Plus Syev's picture is scary ^_^

I plan on accepting at this point, as soon as I see Jet in Vent to discuss it with him. It looks like I will have the RL time to do it properly, unless something changes. It is excellent that KGB is starting to get this faction officially moving.

Heres to a successfull KGB launch in DFO

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Rock on! I'm glad you accepted the position.

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\ Heres to a successfull KGB launch in DFO

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Here's to a successful launch of DFO ... period!

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you better

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Syev waiting for jet in vent

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make regular visits so when these games come out your not shitting a loaf.

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LOL

I Love the keyboard marks on his face. =P

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(not me though, as I'll still be in Iraq.)

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(not me though, as I'll still be in Iraq.)

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Wow Raek, I didnt realize you were in the service. What service and what do you do for them?

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