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#126420 - 09/14/14 08:26 PM Templar vs Cleric build  
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I just wanted to start a thread about these heal/tank classes. My first experience was that the healing through lvl 20 was pretty weak. But I used a 1h sword since I never found a healing staff. I also wore plate instead of cloth/leather.

They were pretty tanky but when I switched to Cleric I seemed to take less damage with the same low healing (under 300 hp heal at lvl 20 was pretty low to me). The primary low lvl heal also too a few seconds to cast and had a cool down. Maybe higher lvl heals will increase heal amount and decrease cool down.

I tried to primary heal in the lvl 20 dungeon and was a miserable failure. Maybe a healing staff would help here.

The other difference on the offense side was a def spell called Boastful Roar. Using this as a finisher on the Templar gave me OP damage. As high as 2600 damage off a solo combo when in my teens was just tearing mobs up.

Overall Cleric seemed tankier but Templar was more damage with the same gear. Both healed poorly probably due to gear and lvl.

#126518 - 09/17/14 03:34 AM Re: Templar vs Cleric build [Re: Hare]  
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At 32 I have a Pally main and Cleric secondary. I'm doing decent heals BUT I pretty much have to switch to full cloth with a club. My instant does 1300hp heal which I top up with Regen and Mend...

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#126530 - 09/17/14 04:26 PM Re: Templar vs Cleric build [Re: Khensu]  
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Plate Healing is broke as hell right now. You basically have to heal in Leather (if you can get the right stats on it) or Cloth which generally has the right stats on it. At low levels (under 20) I would wear plate for the defense and use a 1 hander and shield to be more tanky and do more DPS.

Once you hit the 20ish range you make a decision on which armour route you are going to go and make the switch to either type and then make a decision about sword and board or healing staff. I have a Templar I am leveling up right now and its not particularly enjoyable form an time sink perspective when you are soloing. You really need at least one other person with you doing either the tanking or the DPS to expedite leveling.

Most, in fact almost everyone didn't roll a healer to start b/c everyone was focused on the land rush/level rush. Hence we are woefully short on Healing. We can't all be ganksters and have no healing. Some of our members are going to have to bite the bullet and roll either a healer alt or once they hit 50 start leveling a healing template on there main.

I get that people want to kill other players and they want to be able to level and have versatility. This isn't a 2 week sprint, its a multi month to year(s) long marathon. You can't be a high calibur rolling death squad without the class/group dynamics. The sooner people start acknowledging this fact the sooner we will have the sustained PvP ability.


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#126535 - 09/17/14 05:28 PM Re: Templar vs Cleric build [Re: Tasorin]  
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I will roll a healer. Please PM spec/template if I am doing it wrong.

My research tells me to use this Hierophant Vit/Aura/Witch build:
http://archeagedatabase.net/us/calc/10371/

Anyone familiar with Hierophant please let me know what would be easiest way to get to 50 (i.e. what to get first).


#126548 - 09/18/14 12:40 AM Re: Templar vs Cleric build [Re: Sini]  
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Originally Posted By: Sini
I will roll a healer. Please PM spec/template if I am doing it wrong.

My research tells me to use this Hierophant Vit/Aura/Witch build:
http://archeagedatabase.net/us/calc/10371/

Anyone familiar with Hierophant please let me know what would be easiest way to get to 50 (i.e. what to get first).


Healing Staff
Cloth/Leather
Stat Stack Spirit and Int

You are better off mix-matching gear and maximizing stats as they come to you on gear then worrying about the set bonuses. The all one type armor bonuses are kind of crud unless you start getting into the high tier end game crafted/mob sets.


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#126583 - 09/19/14 02:45 AM Re: Templar vs Cleric build [Re: Hare]  
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Currently playing the Tank Cleric (Templar) build Tas listed in his group roundup...shouldn't be hard to switch to Vit/Aur/Witch from Vit/Def/Aur if thats whats needed.

How is a Heirophant leveling .. with my Templar I can kill things halfway decently ..with one other it flies. Currently 22 or so playing with a Club that has healing on it which gets my heal to around 800 health at my level.

Should be on this weekend to play some more, currently just busy at work away from home for most of the week.


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#126604 - 09/19/14 02:42 PM Re: Templar vs Cleric build [Re: chaulootz]  
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I could be leveling (and not busy at work for a change!!!) right now, if only client and queue cooperate.

This is SB.EXE level of frustrating!


#126605 - 09/19/14 02:49 PM Re: Templar vs Cleric build [Re: Hare]  
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#126616 - 09/19/14 04:05 PM Re: Templar vs Cleric build [Re: Hare]  
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I am rolling vit/witch/shadow to see how it goes. I have no idea if it will work but so far it seems okay.


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#126649 - 09/20/14 12:37 AM Re: Templar vs Cleric build [Re: Hare]  
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I am going to try a paladin again, just like in alpha. It was great before the patch but after I had to use a 1 hand club for healing my damage turned to shit. Well see, I think there is a craftable spear that has healing and decent dmg on it.

This was the build i was trying out after the lame patch.
http://archeagedatabase.net/us/calc/8604/

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