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Well, it makes me more informed. It makes me think about my opinions, and in some cases it makes me change them. Hearing all sides from all kinds is a great benefit. When I get into RL political arguments, I almost already know what people are going to say.

I know lots of people are down on the H8 that we spew here, but for me it is one of my favorite parts of the Oracle.


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I agree too, it gives me perspective on what other people could think. Without exposure to all kinds of opinions and only listening to my immediate social circle I can grow complacent and mistakenly believe most people are informed, reasonable and fact-based thinkers.


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Originally Posted By: sini
I agree too, it gives me perspective on what other people could think. Without exposure to all kinds of opinions and only listening to my immediate social circle I can grow complacent and forget that my inner circle simply provides empty ego boosting via mutual affirmation.


Fixed that for ya =)


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Originally Posted By: sini
I agree too, it gives me perspective on what other people could think. Without exposure to all kinds of opinions and only listening to my immediate social circle I can grow complacent and mistakenly believe most people are informed, reasonable and fact-based thinkers.


In the same way a monkey probably believes that the monkeys it hangs out with are informed, reasonable, and fact-based thinkers.

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I'm getting to the point where I'm going to cease reading anything
in here. IMO it just serves as a battleground for folks to piss
each other off.

If you think, for one minute, that anger or issues born in here doesn't spill over
into any game the guild is playing, then you haven't put enough
thought into it.

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I respectfully disagree Daye. For instance, in here I really can't stand Sini. I think he's a pretentious douche who's sole purpose in life is to reap enjoyment from trolling these forums (a past time that is all to prevalent these days and one that I simply do not understand) by intentionally misinterpreting/misrepresenting and mocking what others write, rather than actually debate/discuss issues. However, we get along just fine when we play GW2. The point is, I don't have to agree with someone to hang out with them and have a good time in a game. And, while I don't agree with his tactics, I understand that for him this is another game so I understand that raging against him would be just like breaking my mouse because some guy killed me in Counter Strike, ultimately pointless.

As for what I get out of this forum, I have made at least two posts very similar to Jet's OP so there's not much point repeating it here.


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While most of the board is snippy one-liners, I think it's good to be able to vent political frustrations in a forum that's not a circle-jerk. Also, people here don't seem to get offended and neither are they unaccountably anonymous.

It's good for the mind and soul to construct a well thought out argument and defend it. I should try it sometime.

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I consider sitting around and arguing politics to be one of the better cultural traits passed down from the Brits. It used to be common for this type of discourse to occur in pubs and other public and semi public venues, though over time there has been a cultural shift away from discussing matters of substance as a pastime and towards debating things that are truly and completely meaningless like sports.

I think its human nature to want to debate, argue and dicker over various things. Its cool that the internet has created a venue to do so with topics that are at least interesting and pertinent.


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I completely separate the two. I don't even think twice about this place when we are playing games, but Day, you are right!

Some folks can't do that, and we ask that they don't dive in, if they are going to end up shooting people (Only with a gun that they have purchased after having a universal background check).

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Originally Posted By: Kaotic
I respectfully disagree Daye. For instance, in here I really can't stand Sini.


What Kaotic said, except the part where he called me names.


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