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No, you didn't get it. Moral luck does not prove or disprove the idea that there is a right or wrong, only that there is unique correct right or wrong for any given moral judgment.

Mathematical analogy: You have an equation (moral dilemma). Moral absolutism says there is only one solution, and we can always solve it. Moral luck demonstrates that our solution does not always solves for the right variable (you are solving for X, but got value of Y without realizing it). Moral nihillism we can never be sure that our solution is correct answer. Moral relativism says there are multiple answers. Moral objectivism says that for a given space of X and Y we can solve the equation and know the right answer.

/Morals 101

It reduces reproductive fitness.



Measurable outcomes. Right produces net benefit and wrong produces net loss.

Oh no, I got it.
So, perhaps you can see how to a person with the drive to propagate the species, someone who lacked that drive would be aberrant.

From a moral luck standpoint, how can you ever know if an action is right or wrong before it is committed?

Net benefit and loss are themselves subjective, if you buy this you implicitly buy wholesale into moral relativity.

Furthermore, it is a relativity not grounded in any particular constant but rather self aggrandizing justification for any particular opinion.

Just FYI.

"you put one bullet into a revolver, spin it, point at someone and pull the trigger."

And everyone is ok with that . . . . as long as the gun wasn't a scary black military looking one :D

*sorry, I just had to*


Actually, consequences of the aforementioned actions aside, why should the morality of the entire thing rest upon the consequences of the action ? I would think any who think this way are missing the bigger picture.

The question isn't did someone die because of the action, rather, what the hell put the action in motion to begin with ?

Both outcomes are just as f*cked up considering neither party knows what the outcome will be until that particular moment in time passes. While one will be physically lethal, the other will be psychologically devastating as well. While one party knows the outcome is not certain, the other pretty much believes they're about to die.

From my perspective, regardless of the outcome, the act is morally f&cked.