Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Unit - 05/30/08 01:00 AM
If you're looking to pwn total noobs, are you going to need help? And if so, is the Saitek CYBORG Command Unit the help you need to achieve Uberd0m?
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 05/30/08 01:00 AM
Welcome to the first installment of Revol's Revealing Reviews, where I,
Revol, will reveal to you... reviews of.. things.
Eh, a'ight, here we go. Like many of you here, I'm playing Age of Conan. (I'll be reviewing the game very soon, too.) One aspect of the game I'm really loving is the combat. In a genre that is often times very stale, Funcom brought us something new to the table with directional attacks. For the uninitiated, combat in AoC is not automatic. You don't select an object, select an attack, and sit back while your character swings every second. In Conan, you execute every attack yourself, with three directions you can land your attacks at, and... hey, what am I doing? Let's save all this for the AoC review.
Look, what I'm getting at is that combat in Conan is complicated and involved. And while it's completely possible to be able to play with your keyboard, perhaps there is something better out there?
Eh, a'ight, here we go. Like many of you here, I'm playing Age of Conan. (I'll be reviewing the game very soon, too.) One aspect of the game I'm really loving is the combat. In a genre that is often times very stale, Funcom brought us something new to the table with directional attacks. For the uninitiated, combat in AoC is not automatic. You don't select an object, select an attack, and sit back while your character swings every second. In Conan, you execute every attack yourself, with three directions you can land your attacks at, and... hey, what am I doing? Let's save all this for the AoC review.
Look, what I'm getting at is that combat in Conan is complicated and involved. And while it's completely possible to be able to play with your keyboard, perhaps there is something better out there?
The Belkin Nostromo n52 - The competition
I've used something like the Saitek Command Unit before, the Belkin
Nostromo. I believe I was using it while playing Dark Age of Camelot,
and I enjoyed it. So, what am I doing, using the Saitek for AoC? Well...
- I lost the Nostromo
- Brick-and-mortar stores are selling the $70 Razor version, which doesn't seem to be any improvement over the original
- The original is on Newegg, but... I want it noooooow!
But most importantly, it simply doesn't seem like I'd have enough real
estate on the device. I play a Conqueror, so as a melee, I already need
9 keys for movement and directional attacks. On the Nostromo, that
leaves me with 5 more keys, and those are all going to be taken by my
combos. That leaves me nothing for feats, abilities, stances, and so
on. So, I tried the Saitek.
My
set-up for Age of Conan
As you can see, the Saitek is pretty much perfect for my needs. My only
issue here was that it seemed impossible to attempt to map movement to
the joystick on the thumb. (It's the nub that is now used by sprint in
the image.) I spent hours trying to get it to work, but it simply
wouldn't take, and it left me very frustrated. But as the set-up is
now, it looks like it would work very well.
But does it? Well, it takes getting used to. It's easy to begin playing the game for any gaming veteran, using a keyboard, because we've all been there before. And even though the Saitek still has a familiar set-up of keys in the center, it can still take getting used to. What was causing me the most difficulty were the combo keys on the left side. To hit key 12 (my most important combo, my defense debuff), my pinky can't reach up since I can't use the default WASD setting on this device. So, I have to take my hand off 'home' as it were, and move to the 12th key. But now, I'm completely lost. I've found myself stumbling to find the directional keys again, which can kill my combos.
All that could be fixed from fine-tuning my set-up, but there's one last issue that's preventing me from enjoying the Saitek, and that is the responsiveness of the keys.
To get a response out of a key, you need to press a bit too hard than necessary. If I let up on a key just a bit, I run the risk of losing the response. I've had a lot of instances where this happens, which causes weird shit to happen. For example, with movement keys, if I lose response from forward movement for just a moment, it causes the game to think I'm double-taping forward, which activates one of the evade movements. But worst of all is when I go to activate a combo, and it doesn't appear.
Due to this issue, I cannot recommend this device. I bought it from Best Buy, so I'm keeping the receipt, and will give it a few more weeks. Perhaps it just needs to get broken in. If this problem goes away, then I don't see anything else really holding it back. Sure, the profile editor is confusing, but I can work it out. It's a shame I can't get movement working on the stick, but maybe I can figure it out. But as it stands, I won't be recommending the Saitek CYBORG Command Unit.
But does it? Well, it takes getting used to. It's easy to begin playing the game for any gaming veteran, using a keyboard, because we've all been there before. And even though the Saitek still has a familiar set-up of keys in the center, it can still take getting used to. What was causing me the most difficulty were the combo keys on the left side. To hit key 12 (my most important combo, my defense debuff), my pinky can't reach up since I can't use the default WASD setting on this device. So, I have to take my hand off 'home' as it were, and move to the 12th key. But now, I'm completely lost. I've found myself stumbling to find the directional keys again, which can kill my combos.
All that could be fixed from fine-tuning my set-up, but there's one last issue that's preventing me from enjoying the Saitek, and that is the responsiveness of the keys.
To get a response out of a key, you need to press a bit too hard than necessary. If I let up on a key just a bit, I run the risk of losing the response. I've had a lot of instances where this happens, which causes weird shit to happen. For example, with movement keys, if I lose response from forward movement for just a moment, it causes the game to think I'm double-taping forward, which activates one of the evade movements. But worst of all is when I go to activate a combo, and it doesn't appear.
Due to this issue, I cannot recommend this device. I bought it from Best Buy, so I'm keeping the receipt, and will give it a few more weeks. Perhaps it just needs to get broken in. If this problem goes away, then I don't see anything else really holding it back. Sure, the profile editor is confusing, but I can work it out. It's a shame I can't get movement working on the stick, but maybe I can figure it out. But as it stands, I won't be recommending the Saitek CYBORG Command Unit.
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 05/30/08 01:56 AM
cool feature. I was looking into input devices today. I'm not sure if I'm going to go with anything other than a keyboard, but keyboards are definitely not very well set up ergonmically for gaming.
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 05/30/08 03:13 AM
neat thing, i think the article would look a lot more mature without the leet speak though
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 05/30/08 03:14 AM
* mad evil laughter *
I have a Wacom Tablet ! I'll rule the world of Conan !
Wonder if I could put a finishing move of a big " D "
on my enemies chest. . . . . lol
mwa hahahahahahahah
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 05/30/08 12:56 PM
hum...could use some more buttons, lol
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 05/30/08 06:41 PM
Daye how the heck are you using your tablet??
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 05/30/08 09:15 PM
Should have found your Nostromo.... got mine setup and love it... I am playing a Ranger though so I may not have the same issues with all the button etc...
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 05/31/08 04:23 AM
I just ordered this!
USB Foot Controls
After all these years of gaming and working on a keyboard, I have the early signs of keyboard fatigue.
This is going to save me!
USB Foot Controls
After all these years of gaming and working on a keyboard, I have the early signs of keyboard fatigue.
This is going to save me!
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 05/31/08 05:47 AM
Piano Pedals?
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 05/31/08 11:24 AM
Its great to see this type of stuff on the KGB site.
Great initiative Revol. You've always done the best looking work on the Sentinel
Great initiative Revol. You've always done the best looking work on the Sentinel
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 05/31/08 08:33 PM
Quote:
neat thing, i think the article would look a lot more mature without the leet speak though
It was meant for ironic tongue in cheek!
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 05/31/08 09:32 PM
Heidi- I'm not :P But it would make a damn funny slashing
board ! *chuckle*
board ! *chuckle*
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 06/01/08 01:06 AM
ooo the possibilities! I bet you could program it that way. make areas of the screen reactive. the new drivers use handwriting recognition and flick response!
very cool
very cool
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 06/01/08 02:35 PM
Quote:
I just ordered this!
USB Foot Controls
After all these years of gaming and working on a keyboard, I have the early signs of keyboard fatigue.
This is going to save me!
Hey now they just need fans in them so you can game in comfort while bashing heads in! lol
Btw, nice review! I was considering one of these a while back, but my G15 is good enough for now. Ideazon makes one similar to this, but I'm not sure if it has macro capabilities. Check it here
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 06/02/08 02:52 PM
Great Review! Now review these, kthx:
Wolf King Warrior:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823146004
Wolf King Keyboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823146022
Wolf King Warrior:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823146004
Wolf King Keyboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823146022
Re: Revol's Revealing Reviews - Saitek Command Uni - 06/02/08 11:00 PM
The Warrior looks interesting, but... I've found a solution to my issues. I'll be posting a follow-up eventually.