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Posted By: Mithus KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/27/10 01:43 PM
Yesterday I saw some members complaing about dont have any gold and bein pked at dungeon..

this goes specially fairmay.... shes really lazy/crzy :P, farming at dungeon with more than 10k in bag.. that thing do things worse for other people because just invite more the pks to dungeon..


BY GOD SAKE... if you farming in a group of 3.. and dont have an alt there... put one people with master loot and go bank at every 5k gold in the gold pool.. so one people will be goinh forth between dungeon and city

Ubber, got pked at dungeon with 5k gold in the bag.. and I imagine arkh and the other kgb was about that k gold too.. so if one of you guys were banking the gold pool that thing could not happen.

I remember Represent and other banking at every 2k or so farming Blood Knights at Euro Server, please do not be a milch-cow to pks.. bank often..


This type of attitude dont combines with KGB.. be more smart and avoid be pked with great sums of gold at dungeon..
This message goes specially for the new and recent KGB members that didnt play with us at Euro Server, we learned there that our time is precious, and we farmed for hours there to get only a fraction that we are getting today in gold.
Posted By: Tasho Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/27/10 02:10 PM
Bank Often - It's not just because it's a smart move, it reduces the risk of scavenger PKs showing up at our camping spots more often.

People should bank once an hour - even if it means moving your ass off of a popular spawn.
Posted By: Ictinike Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/27/10 02:52 PM
I agree but we've all been there a time or two..

If we are all considered "Cash Cows" and known to carry large sums of gold while in there it only brings more and more to farm US instead of the mobs we are farming..

I'm to blame a time or two also so I'm not pointing fingers wink

Also remember we are not the only ones in that dungeon. Regardless if we cash out at 1k, 5k or 10k someone inevitably from HH, TAO or other allies will continue to roll while carrying that much gold. While we won't lost much if we do this the fact of the matter is if the rest of the allies don't follow this as well the wolves will still come regularly.
Posted By: Mithus Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/27/10 03:08 PM
I was farming in the last 3 weeks there, and the increase in the pks activities raise in the last week as the same time we have more members being able to farm there.

I really dont can do much about others, but KGB could be doing the right thing, and as example today, i joined MC channel early at the morning two guys were farming the first room and were banking at every 20 minutes, while i was at last room, that is a smart move from them.

And yesterday, kgb members lost about 30k gold for the same pk, and that was what I saw while i was online not afk, 30k gold easy for a pk, if i was him, i would go at the same time every day.. get my milk.

The avarage gold profit for each room is around 10k gold/hour a bit more if you kill them fast. So at any hour you can get 20k gold hour from both rooms.
Posted By: Kaotic Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/27/10 05:54 PM
/agree

And to Iccy's post, while we can't do anything about the rest of the allies, at least if we're banking often, then when the PKs do show up we won't have lost nearly as much, assuming that we die.
Posted By: Tasorin Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/27/10 06:03 PM
logged off Loot Mule has been the way to go since pre - NA.

Come on people, lets use our noodle.
Posted By: Ictinike Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/27/10 06:42 PM
Yep Don that was what I guess I was tryin to say at the end but I'm sure failed at conveying properly laugh

Even if the allies don't listen or bank often, we as KGB should, and the unlikely chance they continue to raid us they won't be filling their pockets with our earned gold but allies who don't listen..

lol..
Posted By: Lapatous Lamu Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/27/10 08:23 PM
I havent had much of a career farming mobs I learned a very valuble lesson the past few days i have tried to farm it. Dont at least not atm and that is good enough for me the risk for myself atm is too great to be even caught around that area by pk's It would be much smarter to farm a open mob where i can easily escape.
Posted By: Syloc Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/27/10 11:47 PM
This is why I do NOT go to the dungeon that often. Not that it isn't good money, just because if I don't have at least 3, it's not worth it.

Money isn't that easy to get, I know, but you can easily do Hobogoblins or Raven Standards with 3-4 and get decent money. Hell, I started soloing guards with only a bow and a greatsword. (Well, with the side-step tactic)

This is what 90% of the Darkfall forum community doesn't understand. With pks, money is hard to get.

What's the solution.

STOP WASTING YOUR GOLD.

I can't tell you how many people are crafting, making plate, buying reagents, or some BULLcrap - when they could be using that money for spell reagents and leveling up their magics, or making R0 Great swords and leveling up their greatsword mastery.

It's time for the hard truth of life folks, and the hard truth is that don't complain about the lack of money to me if you are making 5x plate sets for your gimp ass. Don't complain me that you can't level fire if you've leveled your Weaponsmithing to 70.

Yes, I know this doesn't apply to everyone. There are thsoe of you that are doing things right and are still behind. For those, I understand.

Life is hard, and the more pks we get, it will get harder.
Posted By: Tasorin Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/28/10 12:36 AM
Someone got shat on today at work heh?
Posted By: Helemoto Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/28/10 12:55 AM
Well if all I am doing is what syloc says I should be doing then I quit.
It would get very boring if I didnt see what else is in the game.
Posted By: Hare Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/31/10 06:47 AM
Best gold = farm the farmers

Just don't get farmed
Posted By: Syloc Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/31/10 07:45 AM
Oh come on, I'm not saying that you HAVE to play the way I play.

Always play the game how you want to; however, the truth of the matter is that it's faster if you do it a certain way. That's all I'm saying.
Posted By: Valaria Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 01/31/10 02:52 PM
Originally Posted By: Syloc
This is why I do NOT go to the dungeon that often. Not that it isn't good money, just because if I don't have at least 3, it's not worth it.

Money isn't that easy to get, I know, but you can easily do Hobogoblins or Raven Standards with 3-4 and get decent money. Hell, I started soloing guards with only a bow and a greatsword. (Well, with the side-step tactic)

This is what 90% of the Darkfall forum community doesn't understand. With pks, money is hard to get.

What's the solution.

STOP WASTING YOUR GOLD.

I can't tell you how many people are crafting, making plate, buying reagents, or some BULLcrap - when they could be using that money for spell reagents and leveling up their magics, or making R0 Great swords and leveling up their greatsword mastery.

It's time for the hard truth of life folks, and the hard truth is that don't complain about the lack of money to me if you are making 5x plate sets for your gimp ass. Don't complain me that you can't level fire if you've leveled your Weaponsmithing to 70.

Yes, I know this doesn't apply to everyone. There are thsoe of you that are doing things right and are still behind. For those, I understand.

Life is hard, and the more pks we get, it will get harder.


I do agree to a point.

Some of us do spend the gold we make not as wisely as others. I am sure I fall into this category.

Hell I have more HP than some of the guys that played on EU. But I'm super squishy.. I have very low defense.

I don't go to the dungeon unless I have a decent group with at least 1 person that I know can handle the room.

I do however solo many mobs that some people have issues with, Unfortunately those mobs don't drop gold. I use the skinnings to sell to others to make my gold a bit. Doesn't work well for me all time time as not everyone has a need for them, But it is a start.

I harvest/fish and sell the stuff I gathered as well. Normal cooked fish 5g each uncooked 3g each. That does not seem like much, but if you add up 500 fish it becomes a decent stack of gold.
The cost of timber/wood and ore/ingots can make a pay day too. I know many in clan are buying these mats regularly, myself included.
I make deals with stuff I already have crafted like r40 bows. Now I know most of you will say I get enough of those mob dropped, but mine are better. more durability, and usually higher damage. 50 timber.. that is a little over 1 tree for a bow. not too shabby.

Now harvesting may not get my battle skills up, but it does raise those important Base Attributes.


If you do choose to go fight in the dungeon, just be smart with the gold you have pulled in. Bank every 5 to 7k. The only gold that is truly yours is in your bank.
If you farm and have 10k+ that just encourages more raids on the dungeon for your less fortunate clan mates.
Posted By: Lorddarka Re: KGB - Members Lazy at Dungeon - 02/03/10 04:16 PM
i agree be smart make the dungeon a place pks can not make out with large sums of cash and you will see less of them. If i was a pk and scored big 50% of the time i hit that dungeon youd see me all the time taking ur loots.
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