http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/08/22/kerry-gauthier_n_1823297.html

Writing inflammatory topic headers really is fun!

Age of consent in Minnesota is 16, so oral sex with a 17 year old is not pedophilia, just creepy.

Do you have any kids ?
Because if that was my daughter I would go kill that piece of shit !

A 56 year old man with a 17 year old is more than just creepy! The age of consent being set at 16 isn't right when it comes to sexual relationships with older people, the consent at that age should be only admitted when it comes to social affairs when it comes to taking care of younger siblings in cases where the parents aren't present for one reason or another. Or situations similar.

What you personally believe and what is illegal and should be prosecuted are too different things. I personally think that people that let their dogs bark all night should go to jail for disorderly conduct. Unfortunately law disagrees with me.

lol! sinij is taking a states rights stance?? so i guess the stand your ground laws are a-ok with you since they were enacted by states? i guess i need to cross post this in the "armed society..." thread.

im just going to add that this ridiculous defense is what happens when people and society become detacted from any moral system. the "it aint illegal" arguement can be used to justify all kinds of repugnant behaviors.

So what other moral codes should we chose to enforce? Sharia law moral codes? Judaism moral codes? Satanist moral codes?

how about enlightenment codes? and since judeo-christianism is the only major culture that has hadan enlightenment, there ya go.

also, the enlightenment has abolished slavery, promoted womens rights, universal education, the destruction of the estates, the implementation of moral and ethical codes that formed the basis of universal sufferage, human rights, impartial judicial proceedings, and individual liberty.

flying spaghetti monsters, satanism, etc have no such track record. you despise the system that allows you to dissent, but sadly cannot come up with anything better. secular humanism = nambla

Sex with a dead person was legal till it was outlawed. Useing a video camera to catch women dressing and undressing was legal also since no law said it was illegal.

There has been alot of laws from conections with religion and then alot of people want to admit. Stealing, murder just to name 2 off the top of my head. Yes religions have been used as an excuse todo horrid things to other human beings, from the catholic church, to judism, to the islam.

No from of goverament is prefect, no one persons idealogy is prefect, no one person religion or lack of religion is prefect. We humans are not prefect, wither you think we came from a spagtti monster, the slow course of evoultion, the thought of a higher being having a hand in evloution, to sudden apperance of all life with in a span of a few days completely and totally developed, or the byproduct of an alien getting really bored and haveing sex with dead bodies, we are all here, now.

Religion for better or worse has helped to shape the laws of this land. It has shaped the law of other lands. It is only takeing the best from everything, regradless of where it comes from can we as humans hope to reach a platue of true understanding.

why is it that when we bring up christianity or other western values we always have include a caveat? "the inquisition was so bad", "the pope said gays are bad" or some such garbage?

i refuse to qualify my defense of western civilization. socialists and communists never say "mao and stalin starved millions of people to death implementing socialism, but i still think its a great idea", do they? fuck no, they dont.

examine the title of this thread, the story i linked, and sinijs posts. he is defending a pedophile. talk about your sharia law defenders, sheesh

You are right, we do attach caveat to our religion. This to me shows we have learned from our mistakes. We are willing to move beyond them, and strive todo the right thing. To me not includeing it would be to sink to thier level of hypocrisy. By putting it up front I am able to take away some of their ammo in a discussion.

As a father, with 3 daughters, this truly sickens me. However if the age of consent is 17, then the law is restricted in its actions. The law can and should be changed to reflect not religions view of this, but the fact, if you can not drink, till 21, smoke till 18, or drive a vechile till 16, sex is just as harmful and just as life changing as any of these. A legal adult is 18, and I feel sex should have this limation also. I am not navie in thinking this will stop anything, but as a parent it gives me the ability to use the law to protect my kids, even for only anthoer year.

I have to disagree with you, both have much better track record than Christianity or Islam.

what track record is that? straight answer please.

Where to start... lets go with recent.

Anti-evolution, anti-science organization with a track record of pedophilia scandals. I don't even have to look at the history or social issues.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21392345/

i think you do, since teachers molest more than priests, and i havent seen you rail against them

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_evolution#section_2

i know, its wikipedia, but the chart is informative. a majority of catholics, jews, orthodox, buddist, hindu, and protestants believe in evolution.

galileo, newton, einstein, kepler, leibnitz, ben franklin, hooke, copernicus, boyle, bacon, faraday, pascal, darwin, and a majority of scientists working today are all wrong and you are right. such arrogance, such... faith you have!
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/24/opinion/la-oe-masci24-2009nov24