The KGB Oracle Forums General Public Discussion (SPECIAL ACCESS) KGB Political Debate Central Radicalization of GOP

its called libertarianism. i dont see how fiscal conservatism jives with your position on socialized medicine and class warfare that you advocate in your other posts, and your "bush third term" statement is likely a straw man you are using to bash the current candidates. Seeing how you have attacked the anti-romneys in turn, i highly doubt you would give anyone but the unelectable Ron Pail a second look.

Also the fact that you view yourself as mainstream is a comic statement of how far off balance YOU are. I view Romney as weak, and not a conservative. Im not voting for him. Compared to Nixon and Reagan, Romney is a moderate. Reagan and Nixon won 49 state landslides. Romney will be lucky to win the popular vote at all. So I view republicans as democrats-lite.

Meanwhile the democrats have almost radicalized themselves right out of office at the federal level. their historic losses in 2010 are completely due to their passing of obamacare, lack of budgets (three years as of today), and blatant disregard of their constituents. Now they are lining up to support commie/aocialist revolutions (and islamist) including the pathetic OWS protests. This will not play well in november.

The radicalization of the democrats, despite their control of the media and popular culture, is not reflective of the us electorate. The democrats are going to lose more seats this election and have only themselves to blame.

I don't think you could deny that single payer is by far the most cost-effective and inclusive approach to health care. What do you think 15%+ GDP we all spend on healthcare if not a tax? You pay that out of your every pay check, while rest of the civilized and socialized world pays at most 10%.

This is 100% correct. Republican primary line up, save for Ron Paul, are a bunch of flip-flopping or radical misfits that don't deserve a second look. Ron Paul, while I object to number of his positions, is at least a valid candidate that I won't simply point and laugh at you for suggesting.



Fortunately, radicalization for now is only GOP, and not general American problem. So yes, I am fairly centrist and you have to deal with ramifications of that idea.



Nether Nixon nor Reagan would win a GOP 2012 primary if they were to run their old positions due to not being nearly conservative enough. What you think their positions were, and what they actually were are two different things.



Anti-establishment Tea Party movement getting skillfully astroturfed. Clever political move, but not likely to happen ever again. GOP broke about every promise they made to Tea Party in turn making movement irrelevant.




You can keep your head in the sand all you want, but if honestly believe above - you are poster child of what is wrong with GOP. You are welcome to continue your empty evidence-free rhetoric, but it won't make it any more true.



I offered this bet to Kaotic, and I will offer it to you: If Dems lose this election (Pres, Senate Majority or Seats in The House) I will come out and agree with every post you make in politics for entire months. Otherwise you will have to do the same. Are you on?

i will respond to your replies in turn. as to the bet; no deal. i dont want a sycophant. i would rather bet money.
$10 donation to kgb paypal. bet is: if democrats have fewer net seats in congress (house+senate) than they do now, i iwn. democrats have the same or more, you win.

deal?

This is 100% correct. Republican primary line up, save for Ron Paul, are a bunch of flip-flopping or radical misfits that don't deserve a second look. Ron Paul, while I object to number of his positions, is at least a valid candidate that I won't simply point and laugh at you for suggesting.

ron paul sucks. he pretends to be a libertarian while bringing home massive amounts of pork to his district. his foreign policy is a suicide pact.
heres a link to a commie rag you are probably famiar with

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2011/07/ron-paul-texas-federal-spending-pork

Radicalization is for only the GOP? Show me a similar photo from a tea party and ill stop posting forever. i double dog dare you. and dont try to tell me these arent democrats

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/02/occupy-on-occupy-brick-to-the-face

10$ paypal donation to KGB. Deal. Throw in Pres into seat count. Indies count as -1 to both sides regardless who they sit with.

Nether Nixon nor Reagan would win a GOP 2012 primary if they were to run their old positions due to not being nearly conservative enough. What you think their positions were, and what they actually were are two different things.

i would like to see some evidence for this line of bullshit. cause i cant find any.

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Here...

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/20...-in-the-streets

...but please don't stop posting.

Look into what Nixon views were on medicare in JFK vs Nixon race were and late views on health care in general. Or read up on EPA and Clean Air Act...



"The time is at hand this year to bring comprehensive, high quality health care within the reach of every American.”

Did you know that at a time of Watergate Nixon was pushing through his national health care plan?