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House Passes Cybersecurity Measure CISPA

LOL @ civil liberties from GOP House.



Thankfully Obama threatened to veto unless consumer privacy issues addressed.

Unfortunately that's likely all it is, a threat.

It needs to be vetoed even if they remove the consumer privacy issues.

Do you think Romney is the kind of politician that would even consider veto on this? Obama and Democratic Senate is all we got to stop this.

Actually most Dems in the Senate I think will be for it - or at least a good portion.

With Mitt, its hard to say.... which is one of the problems with Mitt... or Obama for that matter. Obama is not exactly predictable, who would have thought from his 08' campaign that he would have signed the NDAA? Unless you simply mistrusted him... which... has turned out in retrospect to have been reasonable to do.

Anyhow, I think we will see some Senate Dems and GOPers oppose this... Wyden and Paul will probably both try to rally opposition from within their respective parties.... hard to say if they will be successful.

Derid, if you look at the voting so far - clear majority of Cons voted for it but only minority of Dems voted.

I'd say any Dem vote for this is inexcusable, but I have to work with realization that Democratic party is no longer Left, it now includes anything from Far Left to Centrist Right. So it isn't surprising that Centrist Right portion would vote for something like that.

I think it is a mistake to try and pidgeonhole these types of issues into a left/right framework.

Probably my biggest criticism actually, of your overall politics is what I observe as a tendency on your part to seemingly fit everything into left/right. Perhaps it doesnt work that way in your head, but for those of us who dont get to listen to what actually goes on in your head it certainly appears that way.

I think the left/right is in many ways a false dichotomy. After all, what got the far left and far right to agree? SOPA. And occasionally some other issues...

Actually I am pigeonholing issues into "conservatives circling the radicalization drain while nation burns" and "other issues" framework.

I am actually not that liberal and would vote for fiscal-conservative socially liberal party over Democrats, but I am very much anti-GOP in its current state and would vote for Bush Third Term if he chose to run as a Democrat.

"fiscal-conservative socially liberal party"

I think 60%-75%(swag) of Americans would follow that.

its called libertarianism. i dont see how fiscal conservatism jives with your position on socialized medicine and class warfare that you advocate in your other posts, and your "bush third term" statement is likely a straw man you are using to bash the current candidates. Seeing how you have attacked the anti-romneys in turn, i highly doubt you would give anyone but the unelectable Ron Pail a second look.

Also the fact that you view yourself as mainstream is a comic statement of how far off balance YOU are. I view Romney as weak, and not a conservative. Im not voting for him. Compared to Nixon and Reagan, Romney is a moderate. Reagan and Nixon won 49 state landslides. Romney will be lucky to win the popular vote at all. So I view republicans as democrats-lite.

Meanwhile the democrats have almost radicalized themselves right out of office at the federal level. their historic losses in 2010 are completely due to their passing of obamacare, lack of budgets (three years as of today), and blatant disregard of their constituents. Now they are lining up to support commie/aocialist revolutions (and islamist) including the pathetic OWS protests. This will not play well in november.

The radicalization of the democrats, despite their control of the media and popular culture, is not reflective of the us electorate. The democrats are going to lose more seats this election and have only themselves to blame.