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Re: 8 gig of ram for $180 Helemoto #25513 02/29/08 10:55 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 449 ZoneOni Former KGB Member
ZoneOni Former KGB Member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 449	Quote: OK heres what I got. HP m8000n. Yes I did not build my own I bought a family computer so my wife would not bury me in the yard. It came with 2 gig with 2 extra slots. I put in a 7600gs vid card(it only came with onboard one). Has AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core 5200+. 32 bit vista. I am just on this side of stupid when it comes to computers so Can you change from 32 to 64??? Is that the windows program or is it in the motherboard?? Is there a sit to check what motherboard you have. I am assuming the motherboard is the telltell for how much you can upgrade. With this system will getting more ram help or will I even notice? I checked out the site for HP, they have a decent detailed list for the motherboard specs, although their web layout is kinda confusing, in any case heres the link to the motherboard model that should be on your model case. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/docum...257&lang=en According to the site you can go all the way up to 800 without a problem. from 533 to 800, thats a definite boost, now wether if you will feel the difference depends on how much you push your system to the limit. If you just use word and email everyday then you probably won't. If you have seven different photoshop applications all open at the same time, then quite possibly your computer will feel smoother. The little blue note that they cleverly pasted on the memory section of the page, makes me think that you will get backhanded down to 3GIGS if you put in all 4GIGs. So I would go with just purchasing 3GIGS, preferably identical 800s since it also has the dual-channel business, lol. I would make the jump from 533 to 800, no doubt. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134065 This is a nice set for a nice price, 3 of these would make it sweetness. And if you try for 4 and it doesn't workout, newegg's DOA policy is awesome. Depending on the CPU you have it should be no problem, I looked up both amd cpus for your motherboard and they both support 64bit processing with the exception of one anthon 64 that is like uber rare and you wouldnt purchase it unless you wanted to have only 32bit stuff. However, if you wanted to make the move you would have to buy a 64bit windows and that doesn't come cheap if you go vista and it requires a bit more ram then just 3gigs to run decently if you go home or business anyway, xp is a lot cheaper and i would go as far to say more reliable at this point, still...lol In any case, somethings that are on the horizon for you are the drivers for your accessories, and perifierals, cd-rom, speakers etc just about anything that requires a driver to function, even some software like certain background services would probably need an updated 64bit upgrade patch unless you bought it very recently and they thought about including that as part of the install. But something's might not work right and if it doesn't it means it needs to be updated. Also your processors are AMD which currently at this point in time they are at the lower part of the totem pole as far as speed goes when they compare to intel, atleast for now anyway. This in mind some hardware even software are geared more towards intel simply because of it's expandability and success as of right now. So if some things don't go as fast as you like them or as smooth it isn't thet hardware thats bad it's the people that made what your trying to use. So as a wrap up, your set for 64bit you have all the right stuff, just need the OS and some fixatures on your devices and as long as your processor is the stock one. Which it should cuz thats what should have come with the computer, you'll be alright.

Re: 8 gig of ram for $180 ZoneOni #25514 02/29/08 04:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 941 League City, TX Daye KGB Supreme Knight
Daye KGB Supreme Knight Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 941 League City, TX	Quote: You do, for more then 4gigs but for exactly 4gigs which is what Helemoto wants, it's possible to do it on 32bit windows. The limitation isn't set by the OS your running, it' set by the motherboard design frame which then sets the OS your allowed to run on your machine. I hate to rain on a parade here but. . . . 32 Bit Operating Systems have a maximum capability of 4GB of Ram. However, Windows of the 32bit flavor will utilize up to a MAXIMUM of 3GB. Recall it has to add the video card memory into the mix and still has to fall under the 4GB max. Even then, that is only available to you if you use the /3gb switch in your boot.ini file. Even so ! Most of the programs on the market today are limited to 2GB unless they are specially designed to make use of extended Ram via that /3gb switch I mentioned earlier. Not very many of those out there. Thus, unless you plan on updating to a 64-bit OS AND your hardware ( motherboard chipset ) can support it, do not bother with increasing your RAM anything past 3GB as your system won't be able to use it anyway. Will be a waste of moolah ! -Daye

Re: 8 gig of ram for $180 Daye #25515 03/01/08 06:17 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,526 Likes: 1 Nebraska,Omaha Helemoto KGB Supreme Knight
Helemoto KGB Supreme Knight Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,526 Likes: 1 Nebraska,Omaha	Thanks for the INFO guys.

Re: 8 gig of ram for $180 Awastatyme #25516 03/07/08 05:51 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 145 Steamboat Springs CO 5050 KGB Knight
5050 KGB Knight Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 145 Steamboat Springs CO	Quote: Quote: What OS are you running???? I thought you had to have either Linux or XP 64 to address more than 4 gigs... To answer your question, I am running Vista Home Prem. 64 bit. And no I have yet to have a problem with it. Ah... well with a 64 bit OS there ya go... nice buy... by the way 5050

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