Libertarian Expats in Chile





For this guy, as long as abortion is illegal, the rest doesn't matter. Libertarian he is not.

Well, finally we agree on something. This guy calling himself a "Libertarian" is about the equivalent of me calling myself a Marxist-leaning Socialist.

I think most people that call themselves Libertarian are in reality just ignorant bozos. Have you read Politico's article on Dingell ? I tend to agree with his "it is all ignorance" views.

A better example would be you calling yourself a progressive.

Marxist-leaning Socialist, do these still exist outside of Venezuela? I know this label gets paraded a lot on the right, but then you don't have a luxury of calling someone Randian and be done with it.

Can you substantiate that in anyway other than linking to a gallon of kool-aid, or is that just your inability to judge people outside of your preconceived notions?

Is this a joke, or do you really not recognize that you advocate for this particular agenda on a daily basis?

Sure, but you will dismiss any of my arguments as kool-aid.

For example, death panels never materialized. This is one example of ignorance. If you genuinely interested, I can put more effort into listing/explaining common FUD.

I will file your post under examples of ignorance.

Followup question for you, if you don't even understand what you are opposing, how can you know what you stand for?

I am statis-leaning progressive, Derid is a free market liberterian. As to you, you are social conservative with an unhealthy dose of confusion about everything else.

First of all, Obamacare isn't fully implemented because he keeps illegally delaying parts of it, but even so, several advocates have admitted that there will be deathpanels and rationing, and that that is exactly the way its supposed to be. That's just what I could find in about 10 seconds.

Second, if you actually make a coherent argument, I'll listen. I've proven in the past that I read what you have to say, and have even changed my mind based on some of the conversations here. I find it ironic that the one guy here who constantly claims everyone else is small or simple minded is the only one who has never budged an inch on any of his stances. Must be nice to be perfect like you.

Thanks for making my point.

I understand quite well what stand for. You seem to be confused though. As we've discussed in the past your tenuous grasp of the English language either confuses us or you. "statis-leaning progressive" is a good example. Did you mean status? That would make sense, because you do seem to view your socialist stances as some sort of social affirmation.

As for your desire to label everyone, no matter how many times Derid points out to you that people don't fit into nice little groups, you can't seem to let go of your labels. Typical I suppose from a guy espousing the beliefs of the party of racism, oppression and that regularly redefines words to fit their agenda and rewrite history.

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Just for giggles, why don't you list the things about which I am ignorant so that I may better educate myself.

Sort of my point.

Sini is much more of a Trotskyist than a Marxist tbh.

Thats actually not quite accurate, especially taking into consideration the meaning you interpret those with.

You haven't up to this point. You take death panels seriously?

This isn't Ron Paul thread and I am not falling for such obvious trolling. You are better than this.

I thought the whole thread was a troll thread and I was just playing along tbh.

Well, I see your point.

Lets talk about Death Panels.

I have to say I am all for them, as long as I am the guy chairing the panel.

I think we should Death Panel Kaotic. He looks like he is in need of some paneling, or something like that.

We know you meant paddle not panel. Kinda knew you were into that.

If Sarah Palin decided to death paddle me I would seriously consider it.

And we're supposed to be the misogynists...

Yes, because while I am joking about getting myself spanked by a politician and a public figure, your side is dead serious about limiting reproductive freedoms of entire gender.

You just keep telling yourself that skippy. You're the hypocrite that doesn't mind killing young women as long as its another woman expressing her "reproductive freedom" who makes the decision to kill her...

Ok, drive-by-slander failed, so lets talk about next topic.

Abortion has very very low mortality rate when done in clinical settings, orders of magnitude safer than back-alley abortions...

Or do you think there is some way to stop back-alley abortions?

You can't legislate morality, or prohibition, war on drugs, prostitution and so on wouldn't exist.

I was talking about the child that is being killed in the womb, or in the birth canal as its ripped apart. But I know that doesn't matter to you. We will never agree on this so there is no point talking about it.

For the record, I wasn't attempting to slander anyone. That's your department.

Do you really think that if you could outlaw legal abortions that would stop abortions from happening?

Whatever your views are, but do you also want to see more women dead? Because that what will happen if back alley abortions are going to be the only game in town.

Also, why do we need more unwanted children? We already have plenty, foster care system is choke-full of them.

I don't want to outlaw abortions. I also don't want my tax dollars paying for them.

I don't want my tax dollars paying for roads I don't drive on.

Now we know for a fact your are insane.

Agreed Hele, it is entirely insane to say "I don't want my tax dollars paying for X" where X is something that you personally oppose or does not benefit you directly. This is not how social contract works.

You keep bringing up this social contract. I don't recall signing one.

A bunch of leftists signed it in your name, reading how they thought it should read. Including somehow making moral choice of abortion which deals in human life somehow analogous to construction of inanimate public use infrastructure.

Now they spend their time trying to convince the world of the validity and enforceability of the version they wrote for everyone.

As long as this social contract also states that I get to

A: Become a Space Marine
B: Become Robocop
c: Get plugged into the matrix if I become terminally ill.

I'll vote for them.

I will just settle for not getting guillotined by the mob. Everything else I can get myself.