. . . you actually DO get what you pay for.

Have been having issues sighting in a new AR-15 rifle.
Rounds were all over the place at 100 yds and I was
starting to think I could throw rocks at it and get
better accuracy. . . .

Checked the scope, the scope rings, and every moving
part on the damn thing and rounds were still crazy at
that distance.

So this morning I went back out and had the same problem.

Today, however, I brought along two clips of semi decent
.223 rounds. Hornady 55gr V-Max

I quickly learned that the problem wasn't me, nor was it
the rifle or the scope. It was that cheap ass ammo I was
shooting. ( Monarch green box )

With wind gusts hitting 20 mph at times cross range, I
still managed to keep 1 - 1.5 inch groups at 100 yds.

I was somewhat surprised just how much of a difference
the rounds made. It went from barely being able to keep
the rounds within the target rings at all to easily
punching multiple rounds within 1" target squares. . .

Apparently, when it comes to ammo, you DO get what you
pay for. . . . :|

:-)

Being in the military if it isn't one shot one kill it could be your life

So yes paying for quality is worth it if you can be 100% sure of where your problem was at.

and now you know why the US snipers have thier ordinance specifically hand made...

and knowing is half the battle


GI JOE

ROFL

I'm gonna have that phrase stuck in my head all damn day
now. . . .

Was at the Gun Show over the weekend. Lots of things there
to play with. Two Barrett .50's were there but they're
damn proud of those. They check in at a mere $9300.00 USD

My Visa card was whispering at me from my back pocket. . .

However, I exercised some will power and didn't go home
with one. I did spot a Gemtech suppressor that I might
consider for both of my AR-15's. All that needs to be done
is change out the flash suppressor and fill out the paper
work and I'm good to go.

My understanding is the unit will quiet down a .223 ( 5.56 )
to the sound level of a 22lr. It will quiet down a 22lr
damn near to inaudible. . . . .

Rep, ( or anyone in the military atm ) have you heard a
suppressed AR-15 ? Your opinions on it if you have any
will be well listened to. ( Especially since the unit is
~$900 + $200 transfer tax for the ATF )

Why does Daye need a suppressor ? Probably the same reason
I have two AR-15's. . . . lol. Just because I can.

You are right. I did the same thing with mine.

I have a friend that custom makes all his rounds.
He did a box for me and the difference was night
and day.
Now when I go hunting I have him make me 2 boxes
for all the rifles I will be using. One for testing
one for hunting. Not that I need a whole box for
hunting, I am not that bad of a shot.

When plinking at the range with my FN FAL I generally shoot brick-pack Army 7.62 ammo, but for sighting in, etc. I use custom loads. (Have a gunsmith friend, so my dad and I load our own at his smithy.)

I always use custom loads when hunting with my Remington Model 700, (7 mm Remington Magnum).

Good custom ammo > expensive factory > cheapie ammo!
Like Hele, we usually wind up with 2 boxes for each, and they really make a huge difference from generic ammo. The more expensive factory rounds are definitely leaps and bounds over any generic ammo, and I like to think that the custom rounds are even better yet.

I do have a scope for my AR but have noticed I can group better with the ironsites.
This pisses my friend off when we have a shotout and he has some very nice/expensive scopes.

He also customized a 700 and has to trim/cut factory shells to use in it.

Have you used what I think is a newer rifle .177
They are very nice for small varmit.

Well i got the gun powder bug and got my first gun. I got it for fathers day. I didnt get a riffle but a hand gun. Smith and Wesson sigma 40cal. So far my only dissapointment is that is has a semi heavy trigger pull since its a dual action trigger. My first box was from Monarch but since that one i have started using Winchester rounds. I have started to look for a second gun and have been looking at the FN Five seveN. I just dont think i want to spend one grand on a pistol.

Well all I have are rifles. I hate going back to my gun nut friend but he does have a 30/30 he made into a handgun. Its fun to shot and still has the lever action to reload.

Leave the Monarch ammo on the shelf

It is the very same ammo that caused my issues
to begin with. I now have a few boxes here that
I'll probably shoot up just to get rid of it.

I'll probably stick with .223 as it's easy to find


Though, in related news, I was cleaning the rifle
AR-15 ( I also have a carbine ) and was just about done
with it when I started checking to make sure all parts
were tight and locked in. Gave the barrel a slight twist
and it moved :|

The only thing keeping me from totally unscrewing it from
the upper receiver was the gas line. !@#$ !@#$_!_@%!_@

Complete tear down of gun commenced. Pulled the gas line,
removed the barrel. Used the opportunity to clean parts
of the gun that you normally can't get to. Re-assembled
the thing but added a few dabs of Loc-Tite Blue to the
barrel threads. ( see it break free this time )

Have to go out and re-zero the !@#$ thing again . . . lol

I shoot about once a year to remain familiar with the M-16 rifle, M-4 rifle and M-9 handgun.

I have a few clusters on my marksman ribbon for shooting with a 90%+ accuracy.