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Posted By: JetStar NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/03/22 01:53 AM
January 2nd, 2022 - Year 24
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KGB NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY

There are lots of questions about what is next for KGB New World. We will have a meeting this coming weekend where we will discuss the results of a survey I have created and want all active KGB Members and Conscripts that are playing in New World to take part in. Active assumes you are playing the game at least 4 hours per week. This lets the folks actually playing the game help influence the direction of the faction. You in-game name is collected in the survey and will be compared to game activity data to determine if you are eligible.

Before you take the survey, let me clearly state I am not planning any faction change or server move despite what you may have heard. We are looking to collect your preferences on these topics which is the purpose of this survey. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, please DM me here or in DIscord and we can discuss it.

Please click on the link to this post and the URL for the survey will be in the first reply. Thank you!

Keep your eyes open for more surveys before this our next meeting
Posted By: JetStar Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/03/22 01:54 AM
Link to survey
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/YX2SVBH
Posted By: Owain Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/04/22 04:50 PM
I would like to see a greather emphasis on PvP and controlling towns, etc. I stepped back from NW for a bit, because it seemed like all that was going on was a gear/xp grind.

Maybe I need to hook up with KGB Knights with a different focus, if possible, or perhaps move back to Crowfall.
Posted By: Goriom Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/04/22 06:02 PM
Originally Posted by Owain
I would like to see a greather emphasis on PvP and controlling towns, etc. I stepped back from NW for a bit, because it seemed like all that was going on was a gear/xp grind.

Maybe I need to hook up with KGB Knights with a different focus, if possible, or perhaps move back to Crowfall.

this. minus the going back to CF thing.
Posted By: Owain Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/04/22 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by Goriom
Originally Posted by Owain
I would like to see a greather emphasis on PvP and controlling towns, etc. I stepped back from NW for a bit, because it seemed like all that was going on was a gear/xp grind.

Maybe I need to hook up with KGB Knights with a different focus, if possible, or perhaps move back to Crowfall.

this. minus the going back to CF thing.
Do we have folks in NW who are focused on PvP/city conquest, or will that have to wait for a faction change/server move?
Posted By: Goriom Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/04/22 10:15 PM
I know there are people who want to pvp and try for cities but the faction doesn't have the proper leadership structure for that to occur.
Posted By: Owain Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/04/22 10:56 PM
Well, I guess that's why Jet's running the survey.
Posted By: JetStar Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/05/22 07:36 PM
Originally Posted by Goriom
I know there are people who want to pvp and try for cities but the faction doesn't have the proper leadership structure for that to occur.

I strongly disagree. You need to have committed spec groups to succeed in PVP in this game. Appointing leadership with a lack of interest is not the answer. The folks that are the loudest voices on this topic do not participate. Some are just waiting for Amazon to give them a great sword.

You can't put the cart before the horse.
Posted By: JetStar Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/05/22 07:37 PM
Based on trends of the current survey, I have created some follow-up questions I would very much like your opinion on.
Your individual answers are only viewable by me and you have my promise your choices will be kept confidential.
Your participation is appreciated and will ensure we take the actions the majority of the faction wants.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/587SNMY
Posted By: Goriom Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/05/22 09:07 PM
I don't know if you think I took a jab at you but I didn't. I think the truth of the matter lies somewhere in between. there is no PVP specific leadership in New World. No knight captains, etc. Yes we need spec groups but I think that's tertiary to just good old fashion getting out there and pvping, win or lose. The experience is vital, and with that, we can form the groups and tune things.

I know that a lot of people are interested in taking towns, or at least they we're a month ago.

And yes I'm waiting for Amazon to get their shit together and also add weapons I want to play with before commiting to come back full time.

There is only so much of the same chest grind I can do before needing a break. I'm maxed WM in my armor, probably one of the first in the guild to do it, and will have to restart from scratch anyways when GS and Blunder come out.

Edit:
And in the meantime while waiting for AGS, I decided to assist in the FFXIV faction to help bolster our membership. I think Sel is on the right track and lending a hand to him is key. I also am actively hosting guild wide events to bolster participation and coming up with new ideas for the near future.
Posted By: Owain Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/05/22 11:18 PM
To expand on the questions in the second survey, I would like to participate in PvP groups, presuming it's organized and scheduled. I don't want to log in and wait an indefinite period of time for people to straggle in. If I can look forward to such organization and scheduling, I'll get back in and continue my leveling, but leveling for the sake of leveling does not interest me.
Posted By: JetStar Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/06/22 06:28 PM
Originally Posted by Owain
To expand on the questions in the second survey, I would like to participate in PvP groups, presuming it's organized and scheduled. I don't want to log in and wait an indefinite period of time for people to straggle in. If I can look forward to such organization and scheduling, I'll get back in and continue my leveling, but leveling for the sake of leveling does not interest me.

The results of this survey will be reported and acted on. From Goriom and my discussion, I am trying to gauge the commitment for organized PVP. So far there are 10 folks committed to the spec group concept. This is enough to get started. After the meeting and discussion, I will be appointing Knight Captains to run these groups.

Stay tuned. The meeting will be recorded and posted.
Posted By: Helemoto Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/15/22 05:22 AM
As the same with most games the people who can level the fastest get bored with the game as the people who are in it for the long run are catching up.
The whole "I am first to max out" gets lost in the people who are having fun with the game and not the rabbit in the tortoise race. When the people who
race to the finish come back and, maybe in my opinion talk shit about the game, make the game sound not fun may need to keep playing the game they
are playing and keep out of the talking down of the game in question. This is the same shit that pissed me off in the BDO game. We had a bunch of people
that were having fun and people who were not playing came in and shit on the game. It's the same with NW. I understand that you think the game should go
in the direction you want but the people who play are going with how it's going. Maybe if you don't play more than 10 minutes a week don't talk shit because you don't
have a long sword.

Disclaimer
Yes, Goriom I am talking about you.......and yes I have a few bourbons in me. Still love you booooo.
Posted By: Goriom Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/15/22 07:05 PM
Originally Posted by Helemoto
As the same with most games the people who can level the fastest get bored with the game as the people who are in it for the long run are catching up.
The whole "I am first to max out" gets lost in the people who are having fun with the game and not the rabbit in the tortoise race. When the people who
race to the finish come back and, maybe in my opinion talk shit about the game, make the game sound not fun may need to keep playing the game they
are playing and keep out of the talking down of the game in question. This is the same shit that pissed me off in the BDO game. We had a bunch of people
that were having fun and people who were not playing came in and shit on the game. It's the same with NW. I understand that you think the game should go
in the direction you want but the people who play are going with how it's going. Maybe if you don't play more than 10 minutes a week don't talk shit because you don't
have a long sword.

Disclaimer
Yes, Goriom I am talking about you.......and yes I have a few bourbons in me. Still love you booooo.

This is nonsense.

The game has issues and people are free to state them. Show me instances of me shit talking the game over me saying the game needed more time in the oven. It's wholey apparent they rushed this to release with the amount of bugs and exploits that are constantly reintroduced after each patch. The player base has already dropped 90% since launch. None of this is shit talking. I'm sorry if it bothers you that I like to speak up on matters but no game is perfect everything has a plus and minus, I talk about the pluses and minuses of final fantasy 14 all the time (current game I'm playing). I've done it for ArcheAge etc. I don't live in a reality where I hide from glaring issues about something I enjoy. Critique is something that people are allowed to do.

That being said you're allowed to play and enjoy whatever you want. I enjoy new world. I do not enjoy doing the same chest grind over. One incentive is gone, I am max watermark. There is only so many times I can do a chest run and help others before it becomes a monotonous chore to me. At the same time we are not sieging as a guild which is the only other thing Im interested in doing. so until then there's no reason to play. I said I would come back to the game when they actual release some content and the weapons I'd like to play. This again is not shit talking New World.

Side note: There is a dichotomy in this guild between people who jump in full steam ahead and quickly get to end games so that they can immediately PVP and be competitive when the game is at its peak. And then there are those who cannot devote as much time and take much longer to get to end game. Because of this dichotomy neither side truly wins. Sorry to say but if that bothers you you're going to have to get used to it, as it's going to happen in almost any new faction that KGB opens up. This is the current state of the MMO market and culture.

And don't even rehash the old BDO stuff. The obstinence and the aggression against an officer corps that was trying to engage and get people engaged with the game almost got people to quit KGB for good. In fact we lost two membera over the ordeal and it certainly wasn't because of any officer.
Posted By: Helemoto Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/15/22 09:20 PM
I will rehash anything I like. I wasn't talking about the BDO issues when Others were running it, which was in my opinion very aggressive but I came in at the tail end of that leadership. I was talking about the shit talking when Tax and I were running it. Don't forget shit-talking is perspective.

This isn't an issue of the gameplay or missing great swords or bug talk.
Again when the people who ran to the max and quit when the slower people didn't get there fast enough, that is not leadership.
Now that the "leadership" has jumped ship and others are who enjoy the game are having fun and new Leadership has arisen the faction(not talking about the game) doesn't need to be talked down. And yes that is my perspective.
"I know there are people who want to PVP and try for cities but the faction doesn't have the proper leadership structure for that to occur." Just because it is not the normal leadership doesn't mean the leadership is not there.
The problem was that the leadership that was perceived to be in charge of this hasn't been playing so it took time to get new leadership in place once it was known they were not coming back.

Everyone knows every game has bugs and issues especially after patches and to be honest, there have not been that many compared to some games I played and they get them fixed faster than most. I don't see "bugs and exploits that are constantly reintroduced after each patch" that you do.


"At the same time we are not sieging as a guild which is the only other thing Im interested in doing." So why not help out to get people ready to siege, we that are playing want to siege also and are working our way to be competitive.
If you can help out a completely new game why not the one you say you want to play.
Posted By: Goriom Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/15/22 09:45 PM
1) I was not in any way shape or form an officer or leader for New World. I've stated this multiple times. So when you post something directed toward me and then you start talking about how leadership just up and left, well sorry you're wrong. At least in regards to me.

2) The guild did not have proper officer infrastructure for sieging. When I made the post there weren't even knight captains, generals, etc. This is pretty normal for an active faction to have especially in regards to PVP.

3) the people that got to max level really quickly we're constantly telling people how to do it and the quickest way to do it but nobody wanted to listen to them.

4)There was leadership. They formed groups all the time. I don't know where you've been. (Maybe this is why you were confused, I posted things on behalf of leadership, but I was not in a leadership position. I am an admin on discord)

5) this is also indeed about content because the game severely lacks it. This is why a lot of people have left the game inside and outside of the guild.

6) I'm assisting the final fantasy XIV faction because this title has the most potential to bring in new blood into the guild. I've been trying a few different things to revitalize and grow participation within the guild including our first ever Christmas event that Drew the most activity in discord in forever.
Posted By: Goriom Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/15/22 09:47 PM
Originally Posted by Helemoto
Everyone knows every game has bugs and issues especially after patches and to be honest, there have not been that many compared to some games I played and they get them fixed faster than most. I don't see "bugs and exploits that are constantly reintroduced after each patch" that you do.

This one gave me a good chuckle.
Posted By: Selenian Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/15/22 10:05 PM
Originally Posted by Goriom
6) I'm assisting the final fantasy XIV faction because this title has the most potential to bring in new blood into the guild. I've been trying a few different things to revitalize and grow participation within the guild including our first ever Christmas event that Drew the most activity in discord in forever.

Both games have alot of potential to bring in new blood, but that only happens if members are active in the process. Jet's done a hell of a job to right a sinking ship, and its good to see NW stabilized and having 10+ in discord consistently. Now that it has a stable base to build on, it has alot of potential. KGB as a whole is better off having multiple healthy factions, which is does, for the first time in a long time. The back and forth bickering however only serves to divide us in what should be a unified effort to improve KGB, bringing up and rubbing salt in old wounds serves no purpose whatsoever.
Posted By: Goriom Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/15/22 10:06 PM
Originally Posted by Goriom
2) The guild did not have proper officer infrastructure for sieging. When I made the post there weren't even knight captains, generals, etc. This is pretty normal for an active faction to have especially in regards to PVP.

And before anyone comes at me thinking I'm attacking the faction because of the statement above. That's not true. The above is fact. Period. Regardless of the reasons why, none of the roles were filled. I'm not pointing the blame at members, leaders, Jet or anyone. It just is what it is. Obviously there have been steps taken to remediate this point.
Posted By: Goriom Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/15/22 10:30 PM
Originally Posted by Selenian
Originally Posted by Goriom
6) I'm assisting the final fantasy XIV faction because this title has the most potential to bring in new blood into the guild. I've been trying a few different things to revitalize and grow participation within the guild including our first ever Christmas event that Drew the most activity in discord in forever.

Both games have alot of potential to bring in new blood, but that only happens if members are active in the process. Jet's done a hell of a job to right a sinking ship, and its good to see NW stabilized and having 10+ in discord consistently. Now that it has a stable base to build on, it has alot of potential. KGB as a whole is better off having multiple healthy factions, which is does, for the first time in a long time. The back and forth bickering however only serves to divide us in what should be a unified effort to improve KGB, bringing up and rubbing salt in old wounds serves no purpose whatsoever.

Granted all of what you said is true. I was speaking for myself on this point based on population sizes and yoshi p
Posted By: Helemoto Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/15/22 11:04 PM
Originally Posted by Goriom
Originally Posted by Helemoto
Everyone knows every game has bugs and issues especially after patches and to be honest, there have not been that many compared to some games I played and they get them fixed faster than most. I don't see "bugs and exploits that are constantly reintroduced after each patch" that you do.

This one gave me a good chuckle.

You can chuckle all you want but it's still true.



1) I was not in any way shape or form an officer or leader for New World. I've stated this multiple times. So when you post something directed toward me and then you start talking about how leadership just up and left, well sorry you're wrong. At least in regards to me.

Never said you were. and I see the joke didn't come off very well as a joke so I apologize but I still believe my point of view is still valid


4)There was leadership. They formed groups all the time. I don't know where you've been. (Maybe this is why you were confused, I posted things on behalf of leadership, but I was not in a leadership position. I am an admin on discord)

never said there wasn't leadership I said the leadership quit playing and we are now seeing new ones and that cause a lul in guild participation



3) the people that got to max level really quickly we're constantly telling people how to do it and the quickest way to do it but nobody wanted to listen to them.

that is false People did listen and use the advice given Just because they didn't level as fast doesn't mean they didn't take the advice.



5) this is also indeed about content because the game severely lacks it. This is why a lot of people have left the game inside and outside of the guild.

I am still going through the content so that's not really fair. Granted it doesn't have the content that FF does but it is also not as old.



2) The guild did not have proper officer infrastructure for sieging. When I made the post there weren't even knight captains, generals, etc. This is pretty normal for an active faction to have especially in regards to PVP.

We could have done sieging. It's not like the guilds who took the territories were level 60 first day. We had a General for PvP we just didn't hit the wars as the other guilds did. And that is not a knock on anyone it's just how it went.




I am done talking about this Sorry for causing a ruckus
Posted By: JetStar Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/16/22 12:07 AM
As faction leader, I appointed military leadership when I felt there was interest and enough folks to do it. I am excited about the opportunities.

In my 25 years doing this, losing contests because you are not ready for them is the fastest way to break morale. We have a dedicated crew that is properly greared and is here to stay. Leaders are in place. This is not remediation. It is what was needed when it was needed.
Posted By: Owain Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/24/22 05:51 PM
I missed the most recent meeting. Could you post the slides and the results of the meeting?
Posted By: JetStar Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/24/22 06:41 PM
It was actually scheduled for this coming week. Sorry for to confusion.
Posted By: Owain Re: NEW WORLD FACTION SURVEY - 01/24/22 06:49 PM
I thought it was yesterday!
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