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I don't know what the patriot bill has to do with this but since you asked, no. I don't know the particulars of the bill but I know I hated the name they gave it from day 1. Its PR bullshit.

Your kind is in reference to people like yourself. People who claim to have everyone's interests at heart but really what you want is everyone dependent on tue government. That's not freedom. When I was in High school we stopped having to say the Pledge of Allegiance because of your kind. I still said it every morning anyway, loud and proud. This nation deserves your respect and allegiance. I will never deny you your right to say anything. However, I too have that right. It is my belief that the things you believe belong somewhere else. Stop trying to change a great country into one of these other socialist nightmares.


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Originally Posted By: sini
Originally Posted By: Derid

I really, really, really dur dur dur Rosetta Stone for English. Perhaps dur dur dur!

Oh, and the fact is dur dur dur dur dur Big Govt.

Freedom, Flag, Constitution!


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You should really try again. Try harder this time, at least make it look like there is something between your ears.


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Originally Posted By: sini
If you intend to deny your intentions, at least do not turn around and provide written proof of it in the very same post you try to deny it.

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The observations contained in that link are symbolic of a very valid data point regarding the actual effects of Big Govt. The fact that people become more concerned with meeting the letter of the rules than addressing the underlying issues the rules were supposed to address in the first place.


I can only guess that you have had a psychotic break, and weaving threads of reality into something resembling a coherent tapestry is now beyond your grasp.

So you deny that making tons of bad rules, and mindlessly enforcing them leads to bad ends?


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Originally Posted By: sini
Originally Posted By: Stubs

The fact that you think FREEDOM, FLAG, and CONSTITUTION are something to mock is why we dont trust your kind Sini. You openly show disdain for the 3 most important things we all have in common. As far as I am concerned, anyone who can do that and mean it doesn't deserve to be an American.


Recently in other thread we had a discussion about supposed Democratic heretic-burning inquisitions. Well, if above isn't example of attempted heretic-burning, I don't know what is.

To address Stubs "points":

1. So in your world anyone against PATRIOT bill, must be unpatriotic?
2. "Your kind" makes mockery of FREEDOM, FLAG, and CONSTITUTION by abusing these terms. Anyone disagreeing with "your kind" is accused to be against FREEDOM, FLAG, and CONSTITUTION. Just like you were kind to demonstrate with your post.
3. Your clearly don't believe in First Amendment. Your "don't deserve" comments show that CONSTITUTION and you are unfamiliar strangers. Next time you mention Constitution, make sure you remember how you told me that I "doesn't deserve to be an American" for stating my political views.


Nah, thats your extreme psychosis mistaking the straw men you whip out of thin air for reality again.

Oh and FYI, your stances beyond simple disagreement - since you would use force of military might and state brutality to strip people like Stubs of their civil rights in a rather unconstitutional manner. So your "I am more constitutional than thou" tack rings pretty hollow.


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Originally Posted By: Stubs
Its PR bullshit.


Bingo.


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Originally Posted By: Derid
So you deny that making tons of bad rules, and mindlessly enforcing them leads to bad ends?


Thanks to Derid's post, somewhere in China poor children are suffering from the straw shortage.


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Considering that was the original point of OP, your decision to heavily troll this thread seemed to indicate that you do in fact deny such.

There no real reason for me to create straw men here, nor is it something I typically care to do in any case.


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