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Lol..

Come on you can do better than that.

(and it wasnt even a real filibuster)

Let's be honest about Ted. All he was doing was using REPEAL Obama care to milk money out of the naive conservatives when he knew DAMN WELL that a repeal would never make it by the Senate or the President.

He did quite well in the fund raising. Now he can use that money to fund his failing Presidential run in 2016 where he ruins the GOP's chances of ever winning the office.

Like I said, I LOVE TED!

Yeah more or less.

Except maybe the winning part, jury still out on that one. In 2004 few people thought the Dems would be able to completely turn the tables in 4 years and hose the country with something like Obamacare.

[Yoda] The future, hard to predict it is. Take it for granted at your peril, yes. [/Yoda]

So it finally comes out, Derid is Ted '16 guy.

Your new nickname here is Rush Sini. Just FYI.

I love Obamacare!

My next door neighbor just got insurance from the affordable care act and gets to take all his kids to a non-emergency room doctor for the first time in their lives. He is an arborist and his wife a dental hygienist. Neither of them had access to affordable health insurance.

AWESOME.

So the rest of us get hosed cause some people get subsidized to live better in insanely high cost of living areas. Instead of people moving to perfectly nice areas they can afford, instead my money gets moved to people on the Left Coast who want to live beyond their means.

Yeah thats just great, you just summed up why working people in the Midwest arent too thrilled with this whole thing.

Your view is fundamentally a false dilemma - It isn't live in orderly and open opportunity society while contributing vs. live in orderly and open opportunity society while free from contributing toward it.

It is: contribute and benefit from society OR not contribute and don't have any society.

First world libertarians with "the rest of us get hosed" are nothing but a bunch of freeloaders at a potluck party. If you don't like contributing to society, feel free to move to Somalia. My offer of free one way ticket is still on the table.

I have seen some nonsensical posts from you in the past, but that takes the cake. Your worldview is so skewed.

Fact: the couple mentioned would be able to afford nice property in a nice area, a large house, a new car, and health insurance in Ohio or many other places.

This has nothing to do with "contributing to society" in a larger sense, its about contributing to the affluent lifestyles of politically favored people.

I mean hey, I would love to move up to Stamford or Manhattan (pre anti gun frenzy I did anyhow) but I dont make the 350k/yr required to comfortably do so. Maybe I can convince people that they need to subsidize my desire to live in super expensive areas by claiming that if they dont, they dont support contributing toward an orderly and open opportunity society? Hmmm... /strokes beard.

I don't think you could establish that Jet's neighbor did not had access to health insurance due to bad lifestyle choices, unless you happen to have more information that was made available in this thread.

One likely explanation is that said neighbors were small business owners with preexisting condition like diabetes.

Another explanation is that Jet lives in a ghetto next to a crackhouse and his impoverished neighbors simply could not afford insurance.