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Posted By: Derid Liberals and drones - 02/10/13 01:40 AM
http://www.thepolemicist.net/2013/01/sticks-and-drones-and-company-men.html?m=1

BTW thanks Arkh....

I dont know how you found this guy but I am glad you brought him to my attention.
Posted By: Sini Re: Liberals and drones - 02/10/13 02:34 PM
Originally Posted By: Derid
Thanks, Obama!
Posted By: Derid Re: Liberals and drones - 02/10/13 05:45 PM

If your gonna make a funny, you at least need to ....

sigh, nevermind.
Posted By: Kaotic Re: Liberals and drones - 02/11/13 12:59 AM
I thought the link was well written, provided lots of background, and wasn't from a perspective that would usually set the left's hair ablaze (this guy seems to have some liberal tendencies).

Proof that all Sini's blustering about us toeing a party line is just projection? As far as I can tell the only lefty organization that is sticking to their guns over the targeting and killing (rather than apprehension)of suspected terrorists is Code Pink. Clearly killing people with the push of a button is better than potentially water-boarding them... Whoever would have thought I'd agree with them about, well, anything?
Posted By: Sini Re: Liberals and drones - 02/11/13 02:30 PM
My personal opinion is that we shouldn't have got involved with Afghanistan/Iraq. Imagine all that money spent on tax cuts, social programs, moon base... something else that fits your political agenda.

I don't like drone strikes, I don't like extra-judicial assassinations. What the alternatives, given that we did got involved in it (thanks, Obama!) ?
Posted By: Derid Re: Liberals and drones - 02/11/13 03:43 PM

Hmmm, it feels strange to agree with Sinij on something these days. What a way to start the day.

The last time something like this happened.... a glitch in my CPU caused a temporal anomaly and opened up an inter-dimensional rift, and half of my missing left socks spewed forth.

Imagine my amazement seeing a stream of left socks emitting from the side of my PC. Today I relive that feeling.
Posted By: Daye Re: Liberals and drones - 02/11/13 04:15 PM
Chuckle.

Obama's nickname cracks me up.


The Drone Ranger :D
( cue music )
Posted By: Kaotic Re: Liberals and drones - 02/11/13 08:24 PM
Originally Posted By: sini
My personal opinion is that we shouldn't have got involved with Afghanistan/Iraq. Imagine all that money spent on tax cuts, social programs, moon base... something else that fits your political agenda.
I want a moon base...

Originally Posted By: sini
I don't like drone strikes, I don't like extra-judicial assassinations. What the alternatives, given that we did got involved in it (thanks, Obama!) ?
I agree about the drones and assassinations. The alternative is to GTFO like he promised he would, seal up the borders, stop inciting illegal immigration, make legal immigration easier, and catch the people who try to come here to do us harm (which will be made easier by easing the legal immigration process since then the only people trying to come in illegally will be those with nefarious purpose).
Posted By: Sini Re: Liberals and drones - 02/11/13 09:17 PM
Actually, Obama administration is fairly successful at getting us out this quagmire.

Iraq - we are out and country have not (so far) descended into all-out civil war of Sharia Law madness.

Afghanistan - looks like withdrawal is on schedule, the country will likely descend into Sharia Law madness, but at least Bin Laden's definition of Jihad as war against West/US was discredited.
Posted By: Sini Re: Liberals and drones - 02/11/13 09:18 PM
More importantly, we are not in Syria, Egypt, Iran, Libya or Mali.
Posted By: Derid Re: Liberals and drones - 02/11/13 09:42 PM

Which schedule? The new schedule or the schedule talked about on the 2008 campaign trail? Also, we were booted from Iraq.

We were in Libya, and we certainly have a hand in the Syrian mess.

Could it have been worse? Sure. Better than McCain? Ok I will give him that. Something worth touting as an achievement? Not really. Unless being less insane than John McCain is really the new goalpost that even liberals think is acceptable.
Posted By: Daye Re: Liberals and drones - 02/12/13 12:20 AM
"More importantly, we are not in Syria, Egypt, Iran, Libya or Mali"

Cmon Sinij, you know as well as I do that there was absolutely zero chance of us getting involved in any of these countries PRIOR to the election :D

Now that we're beyond that, let's see what the future holds for us now that he has nothing to lose :D
Posted By: Kaotic Re: Liberals and drones - 02/13/13 07:39 PM
So now there is an FBI guy claiming that Brennan has converted to Islam and is some sort of plant for the Saudis.
Posted By: Derid Re: Liberals and drones - 02/13/13 08:15 PM

Lol really? While I suppose I would not, in theory, put it past him to work on behalf of the Sauds (or anyone else) for the proper monetary, social, or other recompense...

I have to admit, I would be very skeptical of a claim that a Jesuit that has reached the lofty halls of unaccountable power and influence largely through the affiliated network of politically powerful social and religious personages would actually do something like convert to Islam.
Posted By: Sini Re: Liberals and drones - 02/13/13 09:52 PM
Originally Posted By: Kaotic
So now there is an FBI guy claiming that Brennan has converted to Islam and is some sort of plant for the Saudis.
foil
Posted By: Sini Re: Liberals and drones - 02/13/13 09:55 PM
Originally Posted By: Derid

Lol really? While I suppose I would not, in theory,


You have a history of subscribing to dubious conspiracy theories. As long as you recognize this tendency and do not act on it, you should be perfectly safe from UN black helicopters using brain scanner on you in order to brainwash you to give up your guns.
Posted By: Derid Re: Liberals and drones - 02/13/13 10:46 PM

No, I have a history of pointing out that you do not know even half of what you think you know. There is a difference, though I find it unsurprising you are unable to discern at that level of detail.
Posted By: Kaotic Re: Liberals and drones - 02/13/13 11:28 PM
Originally Posted By: sini
Originally Posted By: Kaotic
So now there is an FBI guy claiming that Brennan has converted to Islam and is some sort of plant for the Saudis.
foil
I didn't say I believed it. I said it was out there. Consider the fact that he calls Jerusalem Al-Quds. Do your own homework.
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