Almost Every Obama Conspiracy Theory



Thanks, Obama!

Eventually, some will realize that it doesn't matter who is the
President. They all suck.

Some just suck a little less than others.

Wow! I had a feeling but never thought it was this extreme!

Thats not particularly extreme, just look at what is known and what is hearsay and you will find that almost all info from all sides pro and con is hearsay.

Obamas Ring: There are some popular phrases, including in the realm of jurisprudence that also appear in the Koran in some form or another. The idea that he might have a ring that has some phrase or something found in the Koran is not particularly strange. He also did live in Muslim countries growing up (Indonesia) so it becomes quite possible.

What it means: He very well has a ring that has something from the Koran.

What it doesnt mean: That he is a practicing Muslim, or a Muslim Brotherhood plant.

What wild eyed leftists should take away from this: Just because Obama is not a wild eyed Muslim does not mean that claims he has a ring with X or Y on it is false - you have no clue, and even bringing it up immediately brands you as irrational as the people you were (trying) to make fun of.

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Obama was born in Kenya: Its basically his word, and his political allies' word against other peoples. It doesn't really matter because its not provable one way or the other, and in the absence of hard proof - the powerful always win.

What it means: People who insist he was born in the US mostly do so because they like him.

What it doesnt mean: It doesnt mean he isnt President.

What leftists should take away from this: Obamas background is sketchy, even though you like him. Even though you dislike the people who question his bbackground, and know the people who question his background are in fact doing so simply because they loathe him - it does not mean they cant be right just because you dont like them and like Obama.

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Obamas coming for your guns: Well duh. Needs no explanation, read his speeches and look at the legislation and words coming from his allies. Obama loathes the idea of anyone not in lock-step with his agenda and under his control being armed. There is no way a guy as intellectually smart as Obama believes for one second that guns should be controlled by Govt because a few gradeschoolers wrote him emotional letters. He also has to know what banning guns has done for Britain, Australia... and North Korea.

What the left should take away from this: The right to bear ARMS, not muskets, but ARMS is an enshrined right. It is a right that *shall not be infringed*. That means hands off. Any Federal attempt to infringe on that right immediately leaves such Govt in violation of the law, and an illegitimate actor void of moral or legal authority. If you dont like it, there are procedures enshrined in the Constitution to change the Constitution - any Govt that ignores rights simply because they are deemed inconvenient can just as easily target a right *you* care about next.

Its called rule of law. Rule of law is something everyone should value... as a principle in of itself, not just when the supreme law happens to fir your own damn prejudices.

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Obama faked Bin Laden death : As I said, he didnt fake it , but it is possible that he died to chopper crash and not gunshots. It would not be the first time in history a President bent the truth about what happened on a military op - nor will it be the last.

What leftists should take away from this: Its not a big deal either way to be honest. Its funny watching Obama lovers go bug eyed at the implication their demagogue in chief might have at some point been less than honest about something though. Govt line on many happenings has been false, historically speaking. If you pay any attention to history you will find a regular pattern of the "official record" changing sometime between 40 and 60 years after an event.

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Obama planning a third term: Less than 100 years ago this was legal. If Obama can find some way to get away with doing it, I am sure he would. I consider this a low probability that he will try, but anything can happen.

What leftists should take away from this: If you arent still drinking the kool-aid, you will inherently not trust Obama. The fact that some people worry about this shows just how deep the mistrust goes. Of course if you still actually believe Obama has a shred of morality or human decency you will be appalled - Obamas marketing machine just has some people hooked for life despite all evidence I suppose.

Even if he had one, he is WAY to smart to ever wear one. Obama was going to Christian church way before he got into politics. That is FACT. The muslim crap is just that, CRAP.



Complete and total BULLSHIT. Can you say Birth Certificate? Can you imagine how much money there is in proving he was not born in the US? If this was true it would be out. It would be the biggest story EVER. Plain and simple. Anything else is just plain WACKO.



I have spoken on this in other threads.



There was no reason to lie, and not killing him was just plain stupid. Trial or anything like that would have been a disaster. I cannot think of one valid argument that would support not shooting him onsite. It just doesnt pass the laugh test.



Another completely unsupported lie. Nothing to support it, and just simple Obama hatred. If he actively and public ally pursues this, I will put my money where my mouth is and send you $5000.00. Keep that promise in my wallet. Would you make me the same deal?

LOL Jet is fighting for Christians.

What is funny, is Jet did not even address what I said in 4/5 of the replies yet continued on as if he was attacking me.

As for Obamas birth cert- it HAS been a huge story, and HAS been out. Just noone can prove the brand new short-form that got printed up was not present 20,40, etc years ago in some form. Objectively speaking, there is no proof either way. Its not wacko- its a matter of which unsubstantiated claims you choose to believe.

Truth is they all have skin in the game, and there is no objective way to verify jack or shit.

As for the OBL - I never said he was alive - I said there is a chance he was already dead by the time the compound was stormed. Historically speaking, believing the initial "official version" of an explosive story is about the worst mistake you can make. I dont doubt OBL kicked the bucket. I just laugh at people who believe an official story regarding a covert op, simply because its the official story.

As to the Muslim crap, I said Obama wasnt a Muslim - at least as far as anyone credible has said. This is a prime case of liberals not being able to discern details due to emotional involvement in an issue.

As for the third term, I said I consider it a low probability. And that in fact that people are suspicious is in fact a measure of how deep the distrust runs. What you will never admit, is that Obama has earned every shred of the contempt and distrust he has garnered by working hard to remove power from the hands of individuals and place it in the hands of bureaucrats and elites.

I do think he would if he could and will if he can. Whether he will be able to pull off something so audacious is a different story.

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The moral of the story here , in case someone was still wondering why I decided to troll this thread is that the literal truth is usually different than what is claimed - and what that literal truth means is often different that what those who would point out said truth would make it out to be.

I wasn't challenging your answers, I was giving my own opinions.

As for the Muslim ring thing, my personal opinion is that I classify this in the same arena as all the Muslim accusations. As an atheist, I would never wear a ring with religious verbiage. I doubt Muslims would wear another religions words, and same with Christians.

Noone has offered any credible evidence as to Obama not being born outside the United States. In this country we use innocent until proven guilty as the rule of law. I guess I could challenge your citizenship on the same basis you challenge the president.

Is Derid a citizen? Maybe.

I hope you can see my point.

You said,



When you have margins like 58,720,700 (50.1%) to 56,145,950 (48.4%), that means that 48.4% of people dislike Obama probably as much as I disliked and distrusted Bush. Same game, different outcome.

You also said,



I will never admit that which is untrue, and unsupported with real facts, and not "guilty until proven innocent" conspiracy theories.

I consider myself pretty well informed, and continue to be surprised by some of the opinions and "facts" shared in this forum. I have to take it in pieces.

I still believe that with facts, I will always keep an open mind, and will change my opinion if there are facts supporting that change. Facts and math are very important to me.

He is a Christian you should not like him.

I like Christians plenty. I think they are a little naive, but I like them. Some of my best friends are Christians. They will eventually come around. I mean there is sooooo much ammo against them and all organized religions.

"When you have margins like 58,720,700 (50.1%) to 56,145,950 (48.4%), that means that 48.4% of people dislike Obama probably as much as I disliked and distrusted Bush."

Incidentally, I think you were perfectly justified in disliking and distrusting Bush. Back when he was the one fronting for a crony and corrupt system, you will recall we fell on the same side of most debates.

"I will never admit that which is untrue, and unsupported with real facts, and not "guilty until proven innocent" conspiracy theories."

The fact that Obama is a continuation of Bush is pretty well established and far from a "conspiracy theory". Bush gave lip service to many things I agreed with, however in practice his policy and governing apparatus worked to achieve opposite ends. The same holds true with Obama, I suppose I am continually surprised that you choose not to look past the rhetoric and focus on the actions. Even that "Consumer Protection" bureau.. you should google up what it has actually done, and what the ramifications have actually been sometime.

This thread keeps delivering.

I strongly disagree with most of this paragraph. On the CPB, here you go:

Go google up why homemakers cannot establish their own credit anymore.

I bet the homemaker lobby is going to freak out!

Pretty sad when you have to maintain a lobby to prevent an incompetent govt from screwing you over. This level of societal engineering is not possible to pull off correctly except by accident.

What I find interesting, is that so many MMO players dont realize these fundamental concepts. MMOs are typicaly created by extremely bright people, who also have complete control over the environ they create. Yet most get it wrong. Most good pvp systems came about by accident, and were later removed or altered because the devs were not able to wrap their heads around the qualities that actually made it good. Not because they were inherently stupid people, and not because they were malicious (though the mood on many forums would tend to disagree) but simply because even an artificial game is too complex to easily understand.

Even benign govt partaking of this level of engineering is a bull in a china shop. Motives are meaningless, if your solutions create more problems that they solve.

Well I think even if you get 90% agreement, you are still going to piss of 10%. The pissed off folks bitch the loudest. You just cant win.

Screwing over 10% to simply make a politically friendly headline is not something I consider worthwhile. The thing is, if it was an isolated incident... it would not be that big a deal. The problem is when you have a cultural mentality of royally screwing over 10% of the people as a matter of course, repeatedly, in the name of some unattainable ideal or unrealistic expectation.

All too often if the high level premise sounds reasonable, and the motive sounds just... they will get behind something as long as they arent the ones getting screwed. I consider that to be very immoral and irresponsible. Govt shouldnt arbitrarily pick winners and losers in life just because it makes fuzzy-feeling headlines.