So ya turns out Ledger's last performance could have very well in fact been his greatest, and I must say every other roll was very well played out and looked after even that stupid annoying unnecessary roll that the man who must be in every single last movie that comes out in 168-195 countries in the world played by none other then Morgan Freeman. On other notes villains were awesome, the stunts were somewhat believable and the far fetched ones were just crazy enough to work; as well the one liners lighten the very dark mood of the movie at just the right times. But alas I will let you go see it and wish that The Watchmen came out this year instead of march next year because based on the preview it shall be epic, and Bale playing John Connor will likely bring the life back into hopefully the final installment of the Terminator series and end it on a very very high note.
Here is to hoping that Ledger gets some awards he has deserved for a very long time!
This isn't his last movie, there is one more that is going to release that is his last movie but its going to be finished up by 3 other actors to play the parts.
What do you have with Morgan Freeman? I think he's a fantastic actor. I'll be watching the movie later tonight. Do you have an issue with his character? From what I remember in the last movie it had few lines, and it was sort of comic relief, like Bond's Q.
Bale is playing John Connor in a T4 movie? ooooooooooohh
He is just in every movie under the sun that is all, and he was not necessary as it was always Alfred doing that stuff in the comics
Because he's a badass. I think they probably just wanted to explain who was making all of the gadgets. I mean, Alfred was a butler not an inventor... or was he? O_o
I saw it last night. Great movie, yeah Ledger's performance was fantastic, but it wasn't just him. The entire cast did a great job, the plot was extremely interesting, the actual filming, special effects, music, editing, etc. were all really well done, and gave the movie a fantastic feel.
I sort of want them to bring back the Joker, because it really was a great villain, but then again, I don't think anyone could ever replicate that role. It would be like someone trying to play Jack Sparrow. I feel that at least in this series of movies, Ledger owns the role. Maybe later in a reboot or something it could be brought back... but I think that'll sadly be the end of the joker in this series.
I enjoyed the movie way more than Batman Begins, and slightly more than Spiderman 1 and 2, just to give you an idea of how good it is. I haven't seen Iron Man, so I can't compare to that, although I heard Iron Man was also great, and similarly deep.
IM = 90% as awesome as this batman so that is pretty good.
I just hate Freeman he is a very sound actor but I am just tired of how over casted and always into the same type of roll. I really doubt they will make a third Batman movie out of this series as they will not be able to do it justice but the director and Bale are both signed on for three movies and have outright said that the script would need to be so incredibly good to get either one of them back for a third.
Yeah I was just thinking the same thing earlier today. It'd be great to see a third, but I think they set the bar so high with this one that nothing is going to really compare after this. Sort of like Xmen and Spiderman... except their third installments were shitty :P
I wish they would they left so much open for that third movie but at the same time they did not it is frustrating cos you have closure and you do not
Yeah, they didn't set it up with a villain like Begins did with the joker card at the end. But there is definite potential for a struggle in the third, not to ruin anything.
9/10 great movie
And i won't say ledger owns the role of the joker from now on because if your not old enough or just never saw it Jack Nicholson was the man as the Joker (Ledger) Brought a different flavor villan
If you look at both jokers out there totally different chars with the same name but both well played
Yeah I know, that's why I was saying it could definitely be brought back in a reboot, but I think as far as this series is concerned, it can't happen. This series took a really radical approach to defining the Joker's mannerisms and personality, and it wouldn't make sense if he returns in say a third or fourth installment and all of a sudden behaves completely differently. And sure, another actor can try to play this sort of Joker... but I don't think anyone will be able to replicate that.
I have a feeling, and knowing that there WILL be a sequel to this latest Batman movie, that the next villain may not be the Joker directly. Instead, I can see the Riddler emerging (or the Scarecrow, if he grows a pair), although there was no foreshadowing to this in the latest movie.
That being said, while watching The Dark Knight, I saw glimpses of a few familiar characters within the Joker, played by Heath Ledger. In the facial makeup, I saw a very twisted version of Edward Scissorhands, but also captured a few moments of seemingly "drunken staggering" by the Joker, among other familiar characters. Yes, that's right - if they decide to bring back The Joker, the only actor I know who could play Heath Ledger's Joker convincingly (other than Ledger), and add even more depth, would be none other than Johny Depp, whether you like him or not. So do not despair, there is hope that we will see the greatest nemesis to Batman return, though probably not in the third installment.
Confucius say:
Any movie that make 155 MILLION on opening weekend
is practically guaranteed to see a sequel. . . . .
Saw it, and thought it was the best movie of the year but I'm shocked and kind of disappointed that the IMDB masses made it the #1 movie of ALL TIME.
Really... it's better than Godfather? Better than Psycho? Beats all the Star Wars... beats Shawshank Redemption... beats Pulp Fiction or One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?
It was a very solid movie, I enjoyed it but I found myself comparing it to the Burton/Keaton/Nicholson 89' movie in many places and while I thought it was an overall better movie by far, there were times where I wish I could have taken elements from Burton's movie and spliced them into Nolan's...
I guess I just don't understand how a spinoff or a different take on a movie could be #1 of all time and beat out origional movies that were WAY ahead of their time (Casablanca, Godfather, Pulp Fiction, Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark, ect.)
That's just me though, and I completely recommend you go out and see it if you haven't already done so.
Yeah that's just ridiculous hype, and the ranking will go down with time. I was never a fan of Casablanca, and I don't really think pulp fiction should be too high up on that list, but I definitely see what you mean with movies like the Godfather, Shawshank, or Cuckoos.
I like the way in which Roger Ebert rates his movies, for him it's perfectly possible for say, a comedy to earn 5/5 stars, because he rates movies base on their genre, so a 5/5 comedy won't necessarily be as impacting an experience as a 5/5 drama, but it will be an extremely enjoyable, well-made, well thought-out movie.
Based on that, I definitely think Dark Knight was a 5/5 movie (Ebert gave it 4) especially if you look at the fact that it isn't just an action film, it's a super-hero movie. But yeah, it won't go down in history as one of the greatest movies of all time, but it will be no doubt be seen as the pinnacle that future super hero movies strive to top.
Well, as a Batman fan for at least the last 45+ years, I thought that this movie did the BEST job of doing justice to the dark knight of all the movies to date. I like my Batman, rough, gritty, and best of all, without Robin. Christian Bale has already said that if they try to bring Robin in, he walks.
As far as Morgan Freeman's character goes, it makes FAR more sense for the chief scientist of Wayne Industries to be the genius behind the bat gear. To have the Batmobile to be cobbled together by the Butler with parts from AutoZone? Give me a break!
going to see it this afternoon !!
Enjoy, man. It was a kickass movie.
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To have the Batmobile to be cobbled together by the Butler with parts from AutoZone? Give me a break!
I think that's going to be in the director's cut... 30 minutes of Alfred buying tires from Autozone
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I like the way in which Roger Ebert rates his movies, for him it's perfectly possible for say, a comedy to earn 5/5 stars, because he rates movies base on their genre, so a 5/5 comedy won't necessarily be as impacting an experience as a 5/5 drama, but it will be an extremely enjoyable, well-made, well thought-out movie.
Based on that, I definitely think Dark Knight was a 5/5 movie (Ebert gave it 4) especially if you look at the fact that it isn't just an action film, it's a super-hero movie. But yeah, it won't go down in history as one of the greatest movies of all time, but it will be no doubt be seen as the pinnacle that future super hero movies strive to top.
When I went to see The Dark Knight, I knew what I was hoping for and it delivered on that hope for me... so I would give it that 9.5/10 or 4.5/5 (I don't really think anything is perfect, if something is perfect why bother with anything else).
However, I didn't leave the theatre and say, "oh my God, I'm going to be telling my kids about this movie twenty years down the road"
I also questioned a couple parts of the movie (I would post them, but this is a spoiler free thread) and they weren't questions of style, but more of poor editing.
I personally put The Dark Knight up there with a movie like The Departed. You look at the setup going in (director, actors, trailers, ect.) and kind of know what to expect... then you aren't let down, and that's a good thing and says a lot because expectations going in are high.
I personally thought movies like Crash and Blood Diamond (I know not everyone liked this one) were better then The Dark Knight, that's just my personal opinion though.
So how does this movie stack up against Iron Man? Is the new Hulk worth watching? Inquiring minds want to know!!
Never saw Iron Man or the new Hulk, but I heard the new Hulk was as shitty as the first one.