......shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network. Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice. Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.
Who put us over in that region to begin with as well where did the intel about these couriers come from?
Me thinks you need to realize that this was able to be accomplished by the men and women of our military as well the long standing efforts of the generals and GWB who was there from the start.
I see what your saying Jet and I give credit to Obama for having a spine to do it without a bleeding heart, tell all attitude initially but why do you wish to divide us again on these matters? I understand your political views and agenda but this news has been out now almost 20 hours yet no one "on this side of the table" has spoken a word and instead of giving props your only comment is "wait for the excuses to start flying" ?
Okay ya so what osoma is dead, ya ive heard this a billion times now, welcome to the information age people. Can we now get to the business of fixing our country?
I will gladly give Obama props for breaking his campaign promise to close Gitmo and using the intel gathered there to find Osama. It might be nice if he acknowledged the hard work of those people at Gitmo for obtaining the info for him, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
I agree with Icky and Kaotic. Obama wanted to close Gitmo, if he did you can bet your sweet ass Osama would still be at large. You have to be delusional if you think this was all Obama. Bush cracked open the lid, it was up to Obama to open it up. I give Obama props for NOT being a pussy, and giving the go ahead to kill bin laden. He deserves some praise.
Just imagine if he had waited until after Osama got one shoted. Gotta give him props for the introduction to Hulk Hogans Theme Music.
In case you didn't notice. Obama just shat all over Michele Bachman, Donald Trump, and about 1/3 of the Republican party at this White House correspondence event. It is suppose to be usually a kinda roast meets clean tongue in cheek event.
What a great year it is so far with Glen Beck getting cancelled and Obama killing Osama. Perhaps there is some sane people left.
And for you Bush lovers, if George would have focused on Osama instead of the fucking baseless tirade in Iraq, he would have been dead a long time ago.
I see you don't want to admit delaying the closure of gitmo is how osama was killed. Remember back when you lefties wanted to close it. Good thing obama had enough sense to listen to people other than the left.
Obama has done nothing to change my mind about him other than when the chips are down he isn't as big of a puss as I thought he was. He still wants to pile on the debt, and raise the debt ceiling. I'm just puzzled that someone with so much educatiom is so oblivious to the concept of financial responsibilty. As for glen beck if I wanted to watch a bumbling idiot I would turn it to msnbc. Along with beck there are plenty on that channel. The only doomsdayer bigger than beck is alex jones.
And let's remember it was the Bush policies that obama has went along with in afghanistan and the jsoc elite forces that killed bin laden. Obama was the guy that said go. Giving all the credit to obama isn't right. As I said before he deserves praise for not being a pussy and giving the go ahead.
I don't have any more love for Bush than I have for Obama. They are, or were, the president of the country I am proud to be a citizen of, and as such they deserve and receive my respect, period. But thanks for the character assasination against all of us who disagree with you politically. Congratulations, you've graduated from "Liberalism 101: Name calling and insult slinging."
As for Glenn Beck, I don't guess I understand why he gets under your skin so much. He's just a talking head. Why is this such a big deal, and who cares anyway?
Iraq: First, I understand that the war there was primarily a misguided effort to take advantage of the situation and attempt to bring stability to the middle east so that oil prices would stay low. Obviously that didn't work. Second, whether they found any this time around or not you cannot deny that Sadam had WMDs. He used them on his own people, slaughtering tens of thousands of them. But that's cool, they're just dirty arabs anyway, right? I don't see anyone other than Cindy Sheehan jumping up and down screaming about Libya, where's your recriminations for Obama's attack on a sovereign nation?
I'm torn on Libya just like I was on Iraq. But, I do have respect for my president, both of them, for making decisions that I think are particularly difficult. Since I'm not privvy to all of the information they have available to them, sometimes I have to accept the decisions they make and assume they know something that I don't that makes their decision the right one. You will not often hear me make disparaging remarks about a particular presidential decision. I will however, from time to time, make comments about my perception of their general policies based on my observation of their individual decisions. That, I believe, is the necessary duty of every citizen who would remain a citizen of a free country. Too many people not paying attention to these things leads to tyranny.
"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither and will certainly lose both" -Benjamin Franklin
Libery isn't cheap, free or easy, but it's worth every ounce of blood, sweat and tears to keep it.
Let's be clear on this: OBAMA did NOT kill Bin Laden. An American soldier, who Obama just a few weeks ago was debating on whether or not to PAY, did. Obama just happened to be the one in office when our soldiers finally found UBL and took him out. This is NOT an Obama victory, but an AMERICAN victory!!
I sincerly hope that no one truelly believes this the end of Al Queda. As for presidents I agree whole heartedly with what Kaotic said. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Let's be clear on this: OBAMA did NOT kill Bin Laden. An American soldier, who Obama just a few weeks ago was debating on whether or not to PAY, did.
Just wow...
Didn't have anything to do with the ideological bullshit the GOP was pushing and tying it to the budget issue? All Obama ever said was he wouldn't sign any bill that had non-budgetary political line ideology attached to it. End of story, nothing to really debate, as those are the facts, like them or not. It was political maneuvering done in a election year, and you seem to have bought it hook, line, and sinker St. Val. Which is your right, believe what you want to believe, say what you want to say, weather I, or anyone else agrees with it.
I like Kaotic, don't really care for the current President, didn't care for the last President, but I served this country as a soldier during a time of war, and it pains me to watch us go down the drain due to the nonsense that permeates our culture today. Common sense is lost on current politics as our society has been boiled down to an economic class war of 1% vs. 99%, and the 1% haves are kicking the living shit out of the 99% have not's because the average American is an ignorant sheeple, waiting for the 1% to tell them what to think, when to think it, and how to repeat it.
Its not an election year, and all the GOP was trying to do (and it was really driven by the new "tea party" guys because the GOP cats are all dancing to the same re-election tune as the dems) was CUT the budget. It needs a good trimming but the Dems, not just Obama, wouldn't stand for cuts to any of the programs that get them re-elected.
I don't understand your 1%vs99% argument. The top 10% (that's anyone over $92,000) of wage earners in our country pay 70% of the tax burden. How are they getting one over on the rest of us? The bottom 50ish% don't pay any taxes and over half of them actually get money "back." Which is weird since I don't know of a way to get anything back when I never gave you anything in the first place. Where I'm from we just call that a gift.
This morning show I listen to at work has said they were told the pictures of Osama bin laden will be released in 24 hours. I don't see what the big deal is releasing them, it's not like the people that want retaliation are going to base us releasing those photo's on if they attack us or not. They hate us. It doesn't matter what we do, or what we give them they are still going to hate.
On Democracy Now! this morning, The Nation's Jeremy Scahill explains that Osama bin Laden's killing in Pakistan yesterday is not necessarily a cause for celebration: the United States used the man who launched the September 11 attacks on America as a reason to "declare war on the world," Scahill says. In response to September 11, "Iraq was invaded, a country that had nothing to do with Al Qaeda, nothing to do with bin Laden. The United States created an Al Qaeda presence in Iraq by invading it, made Iran a far more influential force in Iraq than it ever would have been. We have given a grand motivation to people around the world that want to do harm to Americans in our killing of civilians, our waging of war against countries that have no connection to Al Qaeda and by staying in these countries long after the mission was accomplished... This is a somber day, when we should be remembering all of the victims: the three thousand who died in the United States and then the hundreds of thousands that died afterward."
He also said on Tavis Smiley that a Million people have died from our war on terror. I can not confirm this nor deny this but that seems a little high.
Obama just happened to be in office when the intel finally came through. Love how folks act like Obama strapped on some gear, boarded a chopper at o-dark-thirty and personally lead Seal Team Six in taking the guy out.
ANY president in office would have issued the same order. Hell, even Hillary would have done so . . . .
Assuming he's actually dead of course. We buried him at sea. . . really. . . we swear . . :| You can trust us. We're the U.S. Government. Our reputation for being straightforward and truthful is second to none. . .
There are terrorist cells, terrorist networks, terrorist states, and now terrorist nations, some see our war on terror as a exscuse to terrorize for our own benefits..and make my words the global communities will try and paint us as a terrorist nation, not only for our various wars on terror, but for the terror, paranoia, and fear we push into the face of our own people. Just when you think it's over and our wars may be done now libia, iran, a possible lone wolf retaliation, anyone with a bone to chew with the usa, war serves itself and profiteers
Let's be clear on this: OBAMA did NOT kill Bin Laden. An American soldier, who Obama just a few weeks ago was debating on whether or not to PAY, did.
Just wow...
Didn't have anything to do with the ideological bullshit the GOP was pushing and tying it to the budget issue? All Obama ever said was he wouldn't sign any bill that had non-budgetary political line ideology attached to it. End of story, nothing to really debate, as those are the facts, like them or not. It was political maneuvering done in a election year, and you seem to have bought it hook, line, and sinker St. Val. Which is your right, believe what you want to believe, say what you want to say, weather I, or anyone else agrees with it.
I like Kaotic, don't really care for the current President, didn't care for the last President, but I served this country as a soldier during a time of war, and it pains me to watch us go down the drain due to the nonsense that permeates our culture today. Common sense is lost on current politics as our society has been boiled down to an economic class war of 1% vs. 99%, and the 1% haves are kicking the living shit out of the 99% have not's because the average American is an ignorant sheeple, waiting for the 1% to tell them what to think, when to think it, and how to repeat it.
I agree that both partys or affiliations were to blame for the budget bill situation. It's Obama thats trying to make political hay out of killing Osama though. I do agree with the statement about the 1% against the 99% but, I don't know that there's a whole lot you or I can do about it except know the truth and be informed should an opportunity present itself to change the satus quo. I myself can not tell a lot of difference between any of the administrations since GB senior. For all the talk about change it sure looks like more of the same to me. Eliteism is nothing new in this country. It runs all they way back to the founding fathers but, what has saved us from ruin is every once in a great while an honest man slips through the cracks and makes enough changes to keep us afloat. With Big money controlling the media and what we see, hear, and read I truelly don't see that kind of person standing a chance of getting elected. Hell I don't even think he would make the ballot. Just think what would happen in todays political enviroment and mass media if an Abraham Linclon or Andrew Jackson was to run for office. The only chance we have to make a difference is if the 99% pull together as one. The 1% know this so they use the media and other things to keep us divide and fighting each other. Right wing, left wing, liberal, conservative, black, white, and religious affiliation are things they use to keep us devided so they stay in control.
Just for the record. I served in the military, my sister served in the military, my dad served in the military, as well as both of my sister's husbands did tours in Iraq and Afganastan, and both my Grandfathers served in WWII. So I firmly believe it would not be the land of the free if it were not the home of the brave.
What about the dems that aren't buying his Bullshit either? Afterall he could have had all that he wanted done before the repubs got the majority, since the dems had the super majority before the elections. What say you?
I'm interested to know what the teabaggers think about this too
You've been teabagged more than Lipton tea, so maybe you should be telling us!
I don’t particularly care for the teabag version of constitutionalism, it's too cellular and seems like political terrorism to me. Anytime you have to attack the political foundation to move your own political agenda it cheapens and weakens your own arguments
I don’t particularly care for the teabag version of constitutionalism, it's too cellular and seems like political terrorism to me. Anytime you have to attack the political foundation to move your own political agenda it cheapens and weakens your own arguments
I cant see what idiot bastards the Elephants put up for 2012.
Remember, Jesus rode a Donkey not an Elephant.
If Obama wins a second term, it will be because of this. We're now a country who votes for the lesser of two evils since we have run out of qualified candidates. Well, that and unverifiable electronic votes anyway
