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#98259 - 02/08/12 03:27 AM Re: JetStar = Mitt [Re: Derid]  
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Originally Posted By: Derid
The accusations of misogyny just simply make no sense.


I know you wouldn't even acknowledge such fundamental libertarian issue like control over your own body when it applied to women, so it is not at all surprising that you would not see misogyny in Pauls actions.


#98261 - 02/08/12 03:55 AM Re: JetStar = Mitt [Re: JetStar]  
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No one is telling women they cannot have an abortion (though I personally believe it to be murder), all that is being said is that you and me should not have to pay for Sally's abortion. The congress woman's argument you quoted is full of holes, not the least of which is that a very very tiny percentage of abortions have anything to do with the mother's health (one does wonder though, using the congresswoman's example, how a woman whose heart is too weak to give birth managed to have sex without dying), and if the mother doesn't have the money to raise a child there are literally thousands of young couples who cannot conceive and would love to adopt her baby and pay all her expenses leading up to and including the delivery and post-natal care.

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#98263 - 02/08/12 04:02 AM Re: JetStar = Mitt [Re: Sini]  
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Originally Posted By: sinij
Originally Posted By: Derid
The accusations of misogyny just simply make no sense.


I know you wouldn't even acknowledge such fundamental libertarian issue like control over your own body when it applied to women, so it is not at all surprising that you would not see misogyny in Pauls actions.


Care to explain how this line of BS, that sprung from somewhere in your imagination is justified? I honestly wonder how someone can come to such delusional conclusions then treat them as fact.


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#98267 - 02/08/12 06:57 AM Re: JetStar = Mitt [Re: JetStar]  
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I am actually an Obama fan as you could have guessed. When he wins I am going to smile and hug some trees.


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#98269 - 02/08/12 10:09 AM Re: JetStar = Mitt [Re: JetStar]  
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Originally Posted By: JetStar
Yeah, lets get rid of the police and fire departments while were at it. I mean do we even need a military! But lets make sure to stay in the bedroom of gays, and deny them equal rights, and make decisions for women regarding their own bodies.

Sounds like WIN to me, NOT



Can you Clarify as to who you were talking about? Or did you just repeat something Olbermann was spewing out of his filthy sewer?

#98270 - 02/08/12 11:21 AM Re: JetStar = Mitt [Re: JetStar]  
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Originally Posted By: JetStar
I am actually an Obama fan as you could have guessed. When he wins I am going to smile and hug some trees.


Jet, I certainly could understand you supporting Obama in 08'

But, economics aside, right/left aside, how can you still support him after his assault on liberty? Aside from Obamacare, which was more Pelosi than him.. he has been a carbon copy of W Bush in many respects. Especially in terms of foreign policy and civil liberties.

I honestly would have pegged you as having a hard time supporting him this time around. Sure, I can see you voting for him over someone like Newt or Santorum etc, but supporting him on general principle? I would have thought you might be into that Americans Elect thing or something to be honest.


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#98282 - 02/08/12 09:57 PM Re: JetStar = Mitt [Re: Kaotic]  
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Originally Posted By: Kaotic
No one is telling women they cannot have an abortion...


... you are only going to make it impossible to legally operate and fund any avenue for abortions, or add so many unnecessary bureaucratic steps that it will be effectively banned for all but very rich.

There is absolutely no scientific, medical or greater good of society justification to oppose abortions. All anti-abortion arguments are based on moral stance, inevitably based in religion. As a result any attempt to legislate religious morality to detriment of individual's rights, is not only attack on personal freedoms, but because it specifically targets a group of people - woman, is misogynist.


You might personally believe whatever you chose to believe, but moment it crosses into action territory, you start engaging in misogyny.

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#98283 - 02/08/12 10:05 PM Re: JetStar = Mitt [Re: Derid]  
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Originally Posted By: Derid

Care to explain how this line of BS, that sprung from somewhere in your imagination is justified? I honestly wonder how someone can come to such delusional conclusions then treat them as fact.


You clearly are not looking for answers, managing to call my opinion bullshit, delusional and imagined even before I get to state it.

If you flame me like that ever again, I will start responding in kind.

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#98284 - 02/08/12 10:25 PM Re: JetStar = Mitt [Re: Derid]  
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Originally Posted By: Derid

But, economics aside, right/left aside, how can you still support him after his assault on liberty?


That not what actually happened, and if you weren't ears-deep into far-right echo chamber nation you'd have an ability to question "assault on liberty, flag and constitution" line of thinking.

For the record, I too plan to vote for Obama - because I support a lot of things he stands for. I also strongly disagree with a lot of thing GOP candidates stand for (less so for Ron Paul, more so for Sanatorium, and Newt and Romney do they stands for anything but flip-flopping?).


#98286 - 02/08/12 11:26 PM Re: JetStar = Mitt [Re: Sini]  
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Originally Posted By: sinij
Originally Posted By: Derid

Care to explain how this line of BS, that sprung from somewhere in your imagination is justified? I honestly wonder how someone can come to such delusional conclusions then treat them as fact.


You clearly are not looking for answers, managing to call my opinion bullshit, delusional and imagined even before I get to state it.

If you flame me like that ever again, I will start responding in kind.


Um, news flash - just about all you do anymore is flame. You have no justification for many of your statements either.

Your mode of operation these days is operate via insult. If you want people to treat you with more respect, stop acting like a dick.

Anyhow, continue to flame away. I look forward to seeing if you can finally manage to put together a flame/insult that actually makes sense.


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