The KGB Oracle Forums General Public Discussion (SPECIAL ACCESS) KGB Political Debate Central Obama has pissed off his biggest fan!

I would have never thought a liberal as big as Mathews is, would ever turn on his man crush. Obama is a dumb ass, if he's trying to get congress to go along with his idea's and he doesn't pursue them to discuss matters, then how in the fuck can he be mad at them?This guy needs to go

Really? You can do better than some old man complaining about "propeller head kids".

Problem with Obama is that he is not forceful enough in calling out bullshit Republicans pulling out. Compromise my ass, air all dirty laundry, go after these fuckers that would rather send country into default than raise taxes on rich from historical lows. Problem with this approach that country will likely burn in the process, but to hell with it, things cannot go on as they are now for much longer.

Still, my vote goes to Obama (unless Ron Paul gets nominated, but pigs would fly first) because rest of backward redneck hicks from the sticks that would be running would surely not only continue pillaging the country by letting lobbyists write all laws, but also set back social and human rights back another couple decades to appease biblethumpers. I am not crazy about some of Ron Pauls ideas (return to gold standard, his anti abortion stance and such), but at least he is guaranteed to rock the boat. We _need_ to rock the boat.

Not just ANY old man, but the one that was beating the Obama drum loudest during the last election!

About this tax thing. I'm going to say the tax system we're in is completely FUCKED in EVERY WAY! NOW you're saying were' paying historical lows on taxes. Well here's the tax brackets...

Tax Brackets
That's the lowest to highest. During the Clinton years, the last two brackets of 33% & 35% were 2% higher. Yet the same deductions and write-offs were present then as well. Also I should add, Clinton took the corporate tax from 35% to 27%. I don't think 2% is that much difference, considering how our economy has been trying to get out of the gutter. Like I said, the tax system is fucked, but to act like the top 3 brackets don't pay any tax's is pretty fucking dumb!

GE didn't pay tax's, where is your concern with that? Oh wait, that's one of Obama's advisers... I guess since he's the CEO of GE, they get a free pass aye?

I don't buy that you would vote for Ron Paul. Your hate for anyone near the right is seething from you and very easy to see. Also your unbelievably lack of common sense seems to wave bye,bye to you!

No doubt. You know the reason the republicans have backed out is Obama has said that anything they try to pass will be instantly vetoed when it hits his desk. He said this on national TV that he wount even read it just veto. That right there is screwed up. I mean what are you suposed to do as a member of the republican party in congress when someone says that well for the good of the county you do what you can and compromise to an extent because you have to not because you are forced to do something that is in fact better for the county and they just dont like it for one reason or the other but because if they dont compromise they nothing will get done and it will get even worse.

I call BS on this. Proof please.

Just in case you missed it...

Not just ANY old man, but the one that was beating the Obama drum loudest during the last election!

About this tax thing. I'm going to say the tax system we're in is completely FUCKED in EVERY WAY! NOW you're saying were' paying historical lows on taxes. Well here's the tax brackets...
Quote:
There are currently 6 marginal income tax brackets for each filing status:
10 %, 15 %, 25 %, 28 %, 33 %, and 35 %
Tax Brackets

That's the lowest to highest. During the Clinton years, the last two brackets of 33% & 35% were 2% higher. Yet the same deductions and write-offs were present then as well. Also I should add, Clinton took the corporate tax from 35% to 27%. I don't think 2% is that much difference, considering how our economy has been trying to get out of the gutter. Like I said, the tax system is fucked, but to act like the top 3 brackets don't pay any tax's is pretty fucking dumb!

GE didn't pay tax's, where is your concern with that? Oh wait, that's one of Obama's advisers... I guess since he's the CEO of GE, they get a free pass aye?

I don't buy that you would vote for Ron Paul. Your hate for anyone near the right is seething from you and very easy to see. Also your unbelievably lack of common sense seems to wave bye,bye to you!

Just in case you missed it...

I don't feel like debating you on tax issues in this thread, since there are couple already going that you can easily participate in.

I still stand on "biggest fan who?". There is no shortage of crotchety old man in this country, why is this one important?

Plus, where did Obama said "on national TV that he won't even read it [budget compromise bill] just veto" ?

Congressman Jason Chaffetz reads Obama's issued statement.

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