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#92355 - 09/12/11 08:01 PM Re: VOTE FOR RICK PERRY!! NO SERIOUSLY! [Re: Mithus]  
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Hint: I think lot of people in here don't approve the military spending. That's why "vote Ron Paul guys".



#92356 - 09/12/11 08:05 PM Re: VOTE FOR RICK PERRY!! NO SERIOUSLY! [Re: Arkh]  
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Originally Posted By: Arkh
Hint: I think lot of people in here don't approve the military spending. That's why "vote Ron Paul guys".


You a exceptional french guy Arkh, you have time to read about US politics, to play online games and to work as a programmer/developer!
Im just a normal brazilian guy that likes online pc games laugh

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#92358 - 09/12/11 08:20 PM Re: VOTE FOR RICK PERRY!! NO SERIOUSLY! [Re: Vuldan]  
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I've not followed the entire thread because, well..

To point out something regarding Mithus' question it must also be stated that it is illegal for any hospital, in an emergency situation, to deny care that could mean the difference between life and death even if the person has no money and/or insurance.



#92359 - 09/12/11 09:14 PM Re: VOTE FOR RICK PERRY!! NO SERIOUSLY! [Re: Ictinike]  
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Originally Posted By: Ictinike
I've not followed the entire thread because, well..

To point out something regarding Mithus' question it must also be stated that it is illegal for any hospital, in an emergency situation, to deny care that could mean the difference between life and death even if the person has no money and/or insurance.


You have missed out then, the thread has been highly entertaining popcorn

As a minor note though Icti - the Federal law only makes hospitals who participate in Medicare obligated not to turn anyone away. It just so happens that almost every hospital does in fact participate in that gov;t program.

Mithus, as to your question about gov't providing for the parcel of people who cannot afford care; my answer is pretty simple.

If gov't is doing the things that gov;t SHOULD be doing, and doing them WELL... then the amount of people unable to care for themselves should easily be covered by private charity. It is when gov't screws up our lives and economy where the number of destitute people would overwhelm the ability of private charity to help care for them.


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#92360 - 09/12/11 10:05 PM Re: VOTE FOR RICK PERRY!! NO SERIOUSLY! [Re: Mithus]  
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Originally Posted By: Mithus
But I find so intriguing you accept all the military spending of billions of U.S. dollars, when it could be invested in education, internal infrastructure, and a cheap unified federal health care system.


This is an example of something the government is supposed to do. Having said that though a lot of our military spending is pork barrel spending in disguise and could be cut out or at least trimmed down to reasonable levels. I've got several good hammers and none of them cost more than $10 but I've seen reports of our government spending over $100 per...


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#92361 - 09/12/11 10:12 PM Re: VOTE FOR RICK PERRY!! NO SERIOUSLY! [Re: Mithus]  
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Originally Posted By: Mithus
ok I understand yours point of view, and the point that you do not want federal interference.

But I find so intriguing you accept all the military spending of billions of U.S. dollars, when it could be invested in education, internal infrastructure, and a cheap unified federal health care system.


We could cut military spending by 75% and we still wouldn't make a dent in the cost of free healthcare and college education costs. I agree we do need to upgrade infrastructure, but that can be done in time when we can get our Government in control of their spending. THAT above all is what we need to do FIRST!

Healthcare cost would be more affordable, if the federal government would cut the buraucracy, and by adding tort reform. Which cuts out a lot of the frivilous lawsuits that add cost to healthcare. There's many things we can do that will lower cost, but the left isn't happy with that. It's GOVERNMENT ran healthcare or BUST for them. They don't even want to try other ways to cut cost.

#92362 - 09/12/11 10:30 PM Re: VOTE FOR RICK PERRY!! NO SERIOUSLY! [Re: Wolfgang]  
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Dont forget that fixing the infrastructure can fall under state territory if it is a state bridge,dam or road. Not all things were paid for by the feds.

And Mithus, the health care reform that we talk about is not FREE. They want everyone to pay. Right now I believe it is around 3k a year, which is more then I pay now for a family plan with my company. Those that cant afford to pay now will be forced to pay or pay a fine.


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#92368 - 09/13/11 03:37 AM Re: VOTE FOR RICK PERRY!! NO SERIOUSLY! [Re: Helemoto]  
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I'll go for the super everyone pay the same for all around healthcare when...

All elected officials

Top end doctors

Rock stars

Pro athletes

CEO's of fortune 500 companies

All work for minimum wage.


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#92371 - 09/13/11 06:06 AM Re: VOTE FOR RICK PERRY!! NO SERIOUSLY! [Re: Donkleaps]  
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Originally Posted By: Donkleaps
I'll go for the super everyone pay the same for all around healthcare when...

All elected officials

Top end doctors

Rock stars

Pro athletes

CEO's of fortune 500 companies

All work for minimum wage.





#92372 - 09/13/11 06:13 AM Re: VOTE FOR RICK PERRY!! NO SERIOUSLY! [Re: Prism]  
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