The KGB Oracle Forums General Public Discussion (PUBLIC) The Pub Jesse Ventura debunks 9/11 official line

Holy Shit, thats all I gotta say.

[url=]http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12/18/...overnment-fall/[/url]

WoW, well I did read something about some country investigating Bush for something & the gov. stopping it also.

Just so we're clear, these are the same people who say that high temperatures can't melt metal...

I watched the rest of the video and they do make an interesting case for the pentagon attack not being made with an airliner. I then watched the other two videos, one being footage from Geraldo's news show (an argument about building 7 of the WTC) which is also interesting.

The last one on the page is basically 11 minutes of "why Israel is evil, and Iran is really the good guy." This one gives me pause over anything that comes from this website. Clearly the makers of this particular video have an agenda and the only reason for adding it to the other two is that the folks at this site have a similar one. Anyone who has done the slightest bit of research will know that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a nut ball whose religious views call for him to usher in the coming of the 12th Imam, which roughly correlates to the bad guy in Revelations (if you happen to subscribe to that as prophecy). Specifically Ahmadinejad believes that one of the things that must happen for the 12th Imam to return is that
which he believes it is his responsibility to create to hasten the return. Now, I don't know about you, but I don't want this guy within several thousand miles of fissile material, much less having ready access to an excuse for it in the construction of a nuclear power plant.

Whether or not you personally think the Bible and the Qur'an are anything more than pretty stories is irrelevant since this guy quite clearly believes in the Qur'an, and believes that his god speaks to him. So you can chalk all of this up to silly religious fervor if you choose and believe that nothing will come of it, but I prefer to look the boogeyman in the eye while squeezing the trigger instead hoping that he can't see me if I can't see him from under the covers.

Sorry for the side bar but the blame Israel crowd really pisses me off.

I didnt read as far as anything about Israel, I think that link is just a blog where that guy posts crap he finds interesting for one reason or another.

Israels a different subject, and one I dont discuss a lot because its so complex. I do blame Israel for a lot of things, but just because Israel is sometimes wrong, does not by any means make Iran or Hamas etc even slightly right - and I agree about not wanting Iran to have nukes.

I do feel bad for the Palestinian Authority though, who seem to have made a real effort to try and comport themselves in a civilized manner.

Very Loose Change, but to question in search of any truth no matter what the issue, is a sign of the working mind and it's need to make sense of the world and find order in all things.

You guys are freaking nuts!

Exactly, you expose metal to a heat source it will make it do crazy things. I've worked with metal for over 10 years, and people wouldn't believe what heat does to it. Put your hand on a piece of metal that's been sitting in the sun all day. If the sun can make the metal that hot, what do they think a heat source fueled by jet fuel and office furniture will do. I have to agree the pentagon is a little suspicious, but there was a big hole, and lets not forget it's the pentagon they aren't going to just throw cement together with some wooden boards to build it. I'm sure it's pretty heavily fortified.

Actually the video doesnt really have to do with metal at all, and the metal arguments were not really present.

The gist was - the plane, aerodynamics, crash ballistics, the survielance footage (and lack thereof), Pentagon crash eyewitnesses, and the missing money.

I wouldnt have posted the video were it based on the twin towers heat/structural arguments.