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DARKFALL SKILL MEDITATION (OFFLINE SKILL GAIN) #81621 12/11/10 12:50 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 12,986 Likes: 44 KGB HeadQuarters JetStar OP (GM10) KGB High King KGB Federal Faction (F5) High Chancellor KGB New World Faction KGB Oracle Administrator Founded KGB in 1997
OP JetStar (GM10) KGB High King KGB Federal Faction (F5) High Chancellor KGB New World Faction KGB Oracle Administrator Founded KGB in 1997 Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 12,986 Likes: 44 KGB HeadQuarters	DARKFALL OFFLINE SKILL GAIN You can read about the new MEDITATION system for offline skill gain in DFO below: LINK Star Citizen Hanger: RSI Javelin Destroyer, Hull E, RSI Constellation Pheonix, Aegis Dynamics Retaliator, Banu Merchantman F7A Military Hornet Upgrade, F7C-S Hornet Ghost, F7C-R Hornet Tracker, Origin 325a Fighter

Re: DARKFALL SKILL MEDITATION (OFFLINE SKILL GAIN) JetStar #81622 12/11/10 12:52 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 12,986 Likes: 44 KGB HeadQuarters JetStar OP (GM10) KGB High King KGB Federal Faction (F5) High Chancellor KGB New World Faction KGB Oracle Administrator Founded KGB in 1997
OP JetStar (GM10) KGB High King KGB Federal Faction (F5) High Chancellor KGB New World Faction KGB Oracle Administrator Founded KGB in 1997 Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 12,986 Likes: 44 KGB HeadQuarters	I hope if this gets popular, that they will extend to all skills. This would bring lots of people back to the game. Star Citizen Hanger: RSI Javelin Destroyer, Hull E, RSI Constellation Pheonix, Aegis Dynamics Retaliator, Banu Merchantman F7A Military Hornet Upgrade, F7C-S Hornet Ghost, F7C-R Hornet Tracker, Origin 325a Fighter

Re: DARKFALL SKILL MEDITATION (OFFLINE SKILL GAIN) JetStar #81623 12/11/10 01:07 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,115 Likes: 13 KGB East Coast HQ Romeo_Montague (GM5) KGB King KGB Federal Faction
Romeo_Montague (GM5) KGB King KGB Federal Faction Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,115 Likes: 13 KGB East Coast HQ	My only issue is the time it takes. To go from 86.0 Withcraft to 100.0 Withcraft, requires about 13 days of offline time. If it would gain while I was online as well it'd be okay, but since I would have to give up 13 full days of play time to reach 100.0; it would still seem better to macro the spells. Still, for those with limited play time; although it may be an extremely slow offline skill gain, it still gives them the chance to gain some skill points while logged off.

Re: DARKFALL SKILL MEDITATION (OFFLINE SKILL GAIN) Romeo_Montague #81625 12/11/10 01:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 491 P Pickens Heretic Former Member
Pickens Heretic Former Member P Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 491	I agree there Romeo, but here is also the negativity from Meditating for leveling vs. macro'ing it: Meditating not only forces you to go offline for said amount of time to achieve your end goal, but it also only achieves said goal to the school of magic. NOT THE SPELLS INVOLVED THAT YOU WOULD MACRO AS YOU LEVEL THE SCHOOL. So by reaching 100 in let's say, Fire Magic, your Haste, Fireball, etc. would still need purchased (1.00 skill when purchased) & would still need leveled to be effective. VERSUSES: Macro'ing until you reached a spell, then macro'ing that spell for the skill gain in said spell, along with School Level raise as well.

Re: DARKFALL SKILL MEDITATION (OFFLINE SKILL GAIN) Pickens Heretic #81626 12/11/10 02:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,115 Likes: 13 KGB East Coast HQ Romeo_Montague (GM5) KGB King KGB Federal Faction
Romeo_Montague (GM5) KGB King KGB Federal Faction Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,115 Likes: 13 KGB East Coast HQ	Originally Posted By: Pickens Heretic I agree there Romeo, but here is also the negativity from Meditating for leveling vs. macro'ing it: Meditating not only forces you to go offline for said amount of time to achieve your end goal, but it also only achieves said goal to the school of magic. NOT THE SPELLS INVOLVED THAT YOU WOULD MACRO AS YOU LEVEL THE SCHOOL. So by reaching 100 in let's say, Fire Magic, your Haste, Fireball, etc. would still need purchased (1.00 skill when purchased) & would still need leveled to be effective. VERSUSES: Macro'ing until you reached a spell, then macro'ing that spell for the skill gain in said spell, along with School Level raise as well. Yep, another very good point.

Re: DARKFALL SKILL MEDITATION (OFFLINE SKILL GAIN) Romeo_Montague #81627 12/11/10 02:33 PM
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Ictinike KGB Supreme Knight Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,908 United States	What new character will have hundreds of thousands of gold to do this? Exactly.. Vets will continue, with stores of money, will do this to top off their schools all the while not being in game. I guess what this does do is take so many people out of the game no one will be around to do much so it's easy farming for the noobies. I dunno, another band-aid thrown at a sucking chest wound IMO. Maybe it could work with better fore thought but as it stands now I just see people offline skilling and not actively playing and how can you pvp kill someone for loot/reagents/gear while they are offline?

Re: DARKFALL SKILL MEDITATION (OFFLINE SKILL GAIN) Ictinike #81628 12/11/10 02:47 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 491 P Pickens Heretic Former Member
Pickens Heretic Former Member P Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 491	Exactly Icky. It would be a "descent" thing to do I guess, if you were going away on Christmas Vacation or what have you ... but other than that, just macro.

Re: DARKFALL SKILL MEDITATION (OFFLINE SKILL GAIN) Pickens Heretic #81631 12/11/10 08:14 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 6,212 Likes: 1 Crusading Drakiis KGB Supreme Knight
Drakiis KGB Supreme Knight Joined: May 2006 Posts: 6,212 Likes: 1 Crusading	There is also the idea that AV will eventually be the ones dealing their game a killing blow, as the reduction to server population due to offline skilling may in the end create a power core of players powerful enough to eradicate the few left actually playing, offline skilling will leave few people in the game, thus giving others few reasons to continue playing it, and while those that do will see a phenomenon where they are impossibly out classed and quit anyhow regardless of the server population. I am Wrath, I am Steel, I am the Mercy of Angels. mors est merces mea – death is my reward morte in vitam non habet tenaci - Death has no grip on Life.

Re: DARKFALL SKILL MEDITATION (OFFLINE SKILL GAIN) Drakiis #81633 12/11/10 11:19 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 586 Longshanks KGB (F3) Vice-Chancellor Crowfall Faction
Longshanks KGB (F3) Vice-Chancellor Crowfall Faction Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 586	Definately meant for the lower levels, say 1-50 ... I am using it now to raise my water school, so I can get the int buff mostly @ 70. This gives the opportunity to raise something else (spells) while I am active in game, not a bad thing.

Re: DARKFALL SKILL MEDITATION (OFFLINE SKILL GAIN) Longshanks #81635 12/12/10 08:48 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 586 Longshanks KGB (F3) Vice-Chancellor Crowfall Faction
Longshanks KGB (F3) Vice-Chancellor Crowfall Faction Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 586	Just an FYI: .. for 2k, overnight 10-12 hours I suppose, I went from 28 to 32 water .. so ~500 gold per pont at lower levels & I had 3 points left when I logged in (so -1 hour for server down).

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