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Mosque to worship how you want is fine with me

Having 60K Plus troops in 4 different countries for 113 known Al-Qaeda operatives is beyond silly yet we fund so much money to the VICTORY theory

we can argue about everything ... There are many many muslims overseas who do not share the same views as the extremist i can not hold all accountable for what a few have done

You people amaze me. You want to deny others the very rights you enjoy. You want to follow the rules of the constitution whenever it is convenient for you.



I think if your going to accuse an entire religion of something and try to limit where they can worship, then we need to make sure that no Catholic churches are withing 20 minutes of elementary schools.

This dangerous trend with the far right wing is really scary and you folks need to check yourselves. Persecuting people for their religious choices is UNAMERICAN.

Jet our country was built off Judeo–Christian believes. To me having someone build a mosque in the place where someone of the same religion blew it up on planes that is absurd. Leave that place alone rebuild the tower somewhere else. That is a reminder that Islam is a radical and violent religion. Im not basing my opinion off of muslims im basing mine off of Muhammad who wrote the quran and broke every rule in that book. Dont judge a christian off of what others christians do base it off of what Jesus Christ did.

Have you seriously read the Quran, and studied the history?

Not that I have. Since I havent, I tend to take any one source or type of source with a grain of salt.

The bottom line though, is regardless of the opinions of the "nation". The fact is, zoning issues and whatnot are a local issue. If the people of NYC do not want X,Y or Z build at whatever locale, its up to them do do something about it.

Anyone else making inflammatory comments is just trying to grab a spotlight. The part about blocking the Orthadox church is fucked up, I will agree. But instead of focusing on the faux pax of the local authorities - so many seem to be using this as an excuse to vent hate against Islam.

Holding the whole religeon accountable for the Islamist extremists is like holding all of Christendom accountable for the Ku Klux Klan.

I am not going to comment on the issue as I believe political discussions amoungst friends usually end up with flared tempers, distgusting outburts, and a few falling outs, HOWEVER I am glad you are all keeping yourselves somewhat level headed in this thread.

For the record: The area they are considering building the Mosque is actually 2 blocks away from the actual Ground Zero site, not on the site itself.
Old news article about location and first committee to approve site.

This is going in my sig. =P

I totally disagree. The founding fathers were clear about a separation of church and state. They were also very clear about freedom of religion. VERY CLEAR





Now lets move on to the Bible. It is filled with examples of God's cruelty and violence. In the link below are 1199 examples of this.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

You cant call out another religion if yours contains the same cruelty and violence.

The point I am making here is that anyone can worship anything they please an build a church, or in this case a "Community Center" (NOT A MOSQUE) if they have the money and backing.

San Francisco actually has the church of satan, and I dont see anyone raising hell about that.

Be careful you don't judge an entire faith by the most radical tiny fraction. Christians are dirty in that regard too.

I am not a Muslim, not do I agree with how they treat women, and other things, but in our system, they have as much right to worship as you or anyone else does. This is what makes our country great.

Lets not do what we did to the Japanese in WW2. If you remember, the Japanese American troops were some of the most decorated in all of WW2. Meanwhile we confiscated their land and property, and sent them to internment camps.

I have to agree with Jet.

Although Morally to me, I dont like the Idea, but they do have the rights to worship as they please.

The fact that the mosque is not at the actual ground zero site, does put my mind at ease.

I was raised Christian, although I have to say i am not as much a believer now as I was as a Kid. I do see why some would be offended.

But All religions have had Dirty dealings and bad things in their pasts. Honestly the world would be much better off with out it, but that will never happen.

Yeah as Derid pointed out, the KKK are Christians, and you don't see all Christians being judged by their actions.

What about the "Christians" that protest at the US Army soldiers funerals because they believe that their deaths are because "God hates fags".

Its the old "Not in my backyard" mentality that really scares me. People want all the rights for them, and yet want to deny them for others.

Although you don't see the kkk setting up a multi-million dollar worship center near anything that has to do with black history. How would you react if they wanted to setup a worship center on martin luther king boulevard? Sure they have the right to do so, but it doesn't mean it's right to do it.