The KGB Oracle Forums General Public Discussion (PUBLIC) The Pub Who is your choice for US President?

There you go.

The 'sole' reason I won't vote for McCain is his whole let's
continue declaring war on everything attitude. Obviously the
man has no concept of how expensive the war really is.

Another thought ( my opinion only of course )

The Middle East doesn't hate America because of our so
called freedoms. They're not jealous of our lifestyle.
They hate us because we're in their country with tanks,
aircraft and guns. They hate us because our government
seems to think we need to get involved in everyone else's
business.

We have a MUCH bigger priority right now. Get our economy
back on track before we cease to exist. Get your sh*t
together at home before you run off on some grand crusade
to save the planet, the children, the whales, the
environment, and anything else.

I wouldn't vote for Hillary if I was forced to at gunpoint.
I'll exit stage left thanks. Not only is she the biggest
lying, tell everyone what they want to hear corrupted *!&#$
there ever was, but she would merely be an extension of
the Bill Clinton administration. It would be like having
Bill all over again.

( Kinda like the Bush Jr administration we have now )

Personally, I'll vote for Obama.

Why ?

Because I want to see what can be accomplished by someone
who hasn't been corrupted by the system yet. I want to
see if he'll actually follow through with what he is
promising. ( That would be a first for a politician )

There is an awful lot of problems that need to be fixed
with this country. I would like to give someone new a
chance instead of the same old corporate America endorsed
and financed puppet.

Sometimes it takes a radical solution to fix a problem
no one wants to tackle.

Just my .02

The problem with 3rd party is they want to start at the top.
The only way to the top is to start at the bottom. Any real chance is to win state seats then work into congress then you stand a chance to be top dog. But with the country living a fast food life everyone wants the gold watch first.

Clinton = never
Obama = hope and change, but what the change is I havent heard yet(other then get out of the war)
McCain = Whatever lesser of 3 evils. Kinda sad.

Ron Paul is a congressman and *is* technically third party.

I am between Hilary and Obama leaning more towards hilary but some of her things she's coming up with are keeping me steered of her. I don't like her socialistic approach to the health reform she's wanting to do.

Ron Paul is not 3rd party he is a 10 term republican.
He is just as bad as the rest. He says he votes no to all earmarks but puts them in the bills then votes no so he can say what a swell guy he is.

Hilary is a communist...she's like that german folktale of midnight thieves that steal your children dressed in dark colors and karl marx' bandanas strapped across the eyes. She's evil, you can tell in the way her mouth curves ever so slightly to the left when she wins a delegate. Pure Darkness, that would stagger Dick Cheney at the knees at the mention of her name.

M-kain as I like to call him is also evil and also very dark. Greedy too. You can tell whenever you see him taking donations for his campaign, you'll notice how the table scrims just in the oddest of ways as they swip goods under the table. They don't tell you this but he's being mind controlled by Bush.

Obama, he's 12 in a candy factory shop, it's late and dark and he can't find the lightswitch, but to me he is the one with the cleanest of intentions so if I had top pick between them I'd rather choose inexperience over pure evil.

Hillary has too much of an attitude that she is "entitled" to being president... that it is her turn.

Obama is new but he has the right idea with change... only problem is you are never going to get Washington to change over night... gotta get big money out of politics first and then you can start to effect some change. Way to much influence swinging around with all the PACs and Lobbyists...

McCain will get my vote over Hillary for sure... if Obama vs McCain I will have to wait and see. I like John but he may be too close to the current way of doing things to get any changes in place.

The problem is people want change, but are unsure of what to change. The only way to get big money out of government is to have a government that assumes less power, ergo there is less financial incentive to work at corrupting government.

Most people just dont realize that whether its healthcare, or homeland security, the initiatives are all being pushed solely because it lines the pockets of those who have political friends.

The only way to combat this, is to insist that the government does nothing unconstitutional regarding policing, and insist services are left to the free market. Human nature dictates that the more government does, the more corrupt and opressive it will become, because theres not a beauracrat in existance that doesnt fight for a larger budget, nor is there a shortage of pockets to line for politicians who need cash to get re-elected.

Its unfortunate, but its our own fault.

We need to realize that government doesnt, never did, and never will have the answers to anything outside of local state and municipal policing, and national military to defend vs external threat.

Unfortunatly we will be brought to the brink of destruction
before it gets so bad that people will realize that the leeches, mooches, and wannabe tyrants are all attracted to government as flies to shit, because thats where their food supply is. The only way to reduce their number and influece, is to reduce the amount of shit laying around, or in this case, the amount of government.