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#21160 06/10/07 08:51 PM
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Although I am sure at this point that I have been dismissed from KGB I want to set a few things straight. First off I am not a liar. Everything I said was the truth. People go through times of hard luck. It happens. I addmited that I fucked up. And did that publicly.

I did not panic and change the subject on the check.

jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:03:36 PM): you made this up, send me the copy of the bounced check then
jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:03:43 PM): I would love to see it
Winter (6/10/2007 8:03:50 PM): I would love to
jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:03:52 PM): I thought I did
Winter (6/10/2007 8:04:05 PM): I will bring it to vegas hand it to you and walk away
jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:04:05 PM): great then we can settle this once and for all
jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:04:34 PM): bounced check from Comcast, dated and stamped
jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:04:40 PM): Should have the account number on it
Winter (6/10/2007 8:05:05 PM): it wont have the account number on it, since we moved it to a ghost account
jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:05:22 PM): WRONG
Winter (6/10/2007 8:05:29 PM): dont wrong me!
jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:05:30 PM): when they accepted the check it gets printed
jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:05:50 PM): I have cancelled checks from comcast
Winter (6/10/2007 8:06:01 PM): yeah I know this
jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:06:04 PM): so your telling me he got the check and printed another account number on it?
jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:06:57 PM): Silence
Winter (6/10/2007 8:06:59 PM): I gave him another check because you can't reprint on them
Winter (6/10/2007 8:07:03 PM): sorry was talking to someone
jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:07:13 PM): So you should have the bounced check with my account number on it.
Winter (6/10/2007 8:07:16 PM): he took the check off your account
jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:07:23 PM): it gets returned to you bank
jetstarkgb (6/10/2007 8:07:30 PM): with my account number printed on it
Winter (6/10/2007 8:07:51 PM): Like I said I will bring the check to Vegas

I am not going to be lied upon either Jetstar and that is exactly what you have done by saying I paniced and changed the subject.

I have offered repeatedly in our conversation to send you money and I will do so. Since I do not have an address provided to me like I asked for repeatedly I will send it to IBM.

I will continue to play UO. Anyone wishing to contact me should have my information and if you dont you can obtain it through the members of Hybrid guild.

Thank you KGB for 8 great years. I have enjoyed my time with you. Keep up the good work. Farewell


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I didnt want to do this, so here is the ENTIRE un-edited contents of our chat. You can read it and draw your own conclusions.

I will not post on this or speak of it again publically. If you have any questions or comments, ANYONE can contact me via PM, anytime.


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brejent (6/10/2007 6:54:38 PM): My biggest concern is my faction please make sure they are not fucked over
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:55:17 PM): Your biggest concern should have been your friend, and you should have been honest. All you had to do is come clean, and this would have been taken care of.
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:55:23 PM): But your turning into a Valen
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:55:29 PM): and that just makes me sick
brejent (6/10/2007 6:55:33 PM): biggest insult ever thanks
brejent (6/10/2007 6:55:40 PM): I am not turning into a Valen
brejent (6/10/2007 6:55:53 PM): and if I was I wouldnt fucking offer to pay you back on it
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:56:01 PM): admit you lied
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:56:04 PM): thats all I want
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:56:08 PM): just be honest
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:56:13 PM): like your signature says
brejent (6/10/2007 6:56:54 PM): I lied by not telling you about the check and not taking care of it like I said had. Although I seriously though the boxes were taken care of.
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:57:25 PM): The check was bullshit, you made up the friend thing, you were speechless the first time I told you I called and verified no payment was made
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:57:33 PM): YOU TOLD ME YOU PAID SOME MONEY,
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:57:37 PM): you didnt
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:57:39 PM): and wont admit it
brejent (6/10/2007 6:57:59 PM): I really didnt make up the friend thing Danial I did write a check and it bouced and now I have to pay 200 dollars on it after fees
brejent (6/10/2007 6:58:06 PM): I didnt want that on your account
brejent (6/10/2007 6:58:33 PM): I was trying to make the best of a bad situation with my check so I called in a favor from my dancing days
brejent (6/10/2007 6:59:29 PM): but if you not gonna belive me you are not gonna belive me
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:59:37 PM): Your just not going to admit wrong doing, and to forgive you, I need that. Without that, I just cant. Your story is bullshit, you shined it and forgot about it
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:59:40 PM): and you wont admit it
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 6:59:50 PM): and without admission I cant forgive you
brejent (6/10/2007 6:59:54 PM): I did do wrong I admitted to that on a post that never should have been made pulic
brejent (6/10/2007 6:59:58 PM): public
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:00:14 PM): No I posted it cause I knew you would do exaclty this
brejent (6/10/2007 7:00:17 PM): I did do wrong Danial
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:00:23 PM): post a bullshit sob story for sympathy
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:00:26 PM): and you did
brejent (6/10/2007 7:00:31 PM): fuck sympathy
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:00:39 PM): and you have people upset at why I am doing this to you
brejent (6/10/2007 7:00:39 PM): I posted what happened
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:00:45 PM): no you lied
brejent (6/10/2007 7:00:49 PM): they were upset before I posted shit
brejent (6/10/2007 7:00:55 PM): I waited till today to post
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:01:06 PM): Well I guess I am just an "ASS" then
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:01:16 PM): unbelieveable
brejent (6/10/2007 7:01:16 PM): no but sometimes you can act like one
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:01:20 PM): Fuck you
brejent (6/10/2007 7:01:24 PM): just like I can be a bitch sometimes
brejent (6/10/2007 7:01:29 PM): its human nature
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:01:39 PM): Valen only got me for $100, you broke the record
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:01:42 PM): Thank you
brejent (6/10/2007 7:01:48 PM): difference is
brejent (6/10/2007 7:01:55 PM): I am offering to pay it all back
brejent (6/10/2007 7:02:24 PM): even if it is 20 dollars a week I am offering to pay it all back. No deals I fucked up and I owe that to you
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:02:50 PM): You just dont get it do you
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:02:59 PM): I dont care about the money, I care that you lied to me
brejent (6/10/2007 7:03:03 PM): no danial you dont get it
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:03:03 PM): and wont admit it
brejent (6/10/2007 7:03:26 PM): No matter how much I tell the truth you are going to have it in your head that I am lying
brejent (6/10/2007 7:03:43 PM): I can tell you the sky is fucking blue right now and you will think I am lying about it because that is what you are used to
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:03:49 PM): Do you think I am an idiot?
brejent (6/10/2007 7:03:55 PM): you are used to if something bad happens going on the defensive
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:03:55 PM): do you think I am blind
brejent (6/10/2007 7:04:10 PM): and you obviously dont know me
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:04:14 PM): you made this up, send me the copy of the bounced check then
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:04:21 PM): I would love to see it
brejent (6/10/2007 7:04:29 PM): I would love to
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:04:31 PM): I thought I did
brejent (6/10/2007 7:04:43 PM): I will bring it to vegas hand it to you and walk away
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:04:43 PM): great then we can settle this once and for all
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:05:12 PM): bounced check from Comcast, dated and stamped
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:05:19 PM): Should have the account number on it
brejent (6/10/2007 7:05:43 PM): it wont have the account number on it, since we moved it to a ghost account
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:06:00 PM): WRONG
brejent (6/10/2007 7:06:07 PM): dont wrong me!
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:06:09 PM): when they accepted the check it gets printed
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:06:28 PM): I have cancelled checks from comcast
brejent (6/10/2007 7:06:40 PM): yeah I know this
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:06:42 PM): so your telling me he got the check and printed another account number on it?
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:07:35 PM): Silence
brejent (6/10/2007 7:07:37 PM): I gave him another check because you can't reprint on them
brejent (6/10/2007 7:07:42 PM): sorry was talking to someone
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:07:52 PM): So you should have the bounced check with my account number on it.
brejent (6/10/2007 7:07:54 PM): he took the check off your account
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:08:01 PM): it gets returned to you bank
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:08:08 PM): with my account number printed on it
brejent (6/10/2007 7:08:30 PM): Like I said I will bring the check to Vegas
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:08:35 PM): Mail it to me
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:08:44 PM): Its only 43 cents
brejent (6/10/2007 7:09:20 PM): with what my good looks and a smile I am flat fuckin broke no money nada nil zero not even 1 penny to my name at the moment becasue of my little taxi ride
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:09:21 PM): I used to work for a bank, I will be able to tell it it is legit
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:09:36 PM): so you dont have 43 cents for a stamp?
brejent (6/10/2007 7:09:44 PM): what did I JUST say
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:09:54 PM): Problem is you dont have the check
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:09:59 PM): and are still BSing me
brejent (6/10/2007 7:10:34 PM): You know what Danial think what you want. Make me out to be whatever you want just give me the address to send you money or I will send it to IBM
brejent (6/10/2007 7:10:46 PM): I am tired of crying over this
brejent (6/10/2007 7:11:12 PM): I am tired of my position in KGB being in jeparpardy over a RL situation taht has NOTHING to do with KGB
brejent (6/10/2007 7:11:23 PM): I am worried about my faction being screwed
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:11:25 PM): Ok then lets not waste each others time
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:11:30 PM): Ever read the Oath?
brejent (6/10/2007 7:11:30 PM): I am upset that I lost a friend
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:11:44 PM): s a Citizen of the KGB Nation, my personal integrity is irreproachable. I will never degrade myself by the lying to, cheating of, stealing from, or harming my fellow Citizens or declared Allies. I hold myself personally and unequivocally responsible to ensure the preservation of the honor of the Citizenship and good name of the KGB at all times. I will, to the best of my power, uphold and defend the KGB Constitution while preventing all offences against the persons and properties of the KGB Nation.
brejent (6/10/2007 7:11:52 PM): and I am TRYING so hard to fix this and you just dont want to
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:11:59 PM): No you wont tell the truth
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:12:03 PM): THAT IS THE PROBLEM
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:12:06 PM): THE ONLY PROBELM
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:12:10 PM): and you wont admit it
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:12:17 PM): you keep making up more and more lies
brejent (6/10/2007 7:12:21 PM): I am not gonna tell you a lie to make you feel better
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:12:26 PM): Ok then
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:12:32 PM): No need to discuss this further
brejent (6/10/2007 7:12:37 PM): I am not gonna said I lied about something that is the truth
brejent (6/10/2007 7:12:49 PM): just so I can make you feel like you were right
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:12:52 PM): I will post the facts as i see them, and let everyone decide if I am really an "ASS"
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:13:10 PM): So disappointed, and sad
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:13:20 PM): Never thought you would do this to me
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:13:23 PM): of all people
brejent (6/10/2007 7:13:28 PM): yeah well so am I, I thought you were different from the rest of the stubborn men out there
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:13:34 PM): but hey, I am an "ASS"
brejent (6/10/2007 7:14:05 PM): I am obviously not gonna get an address so I will just send money to IBM I guess
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:14:19 PM): Enjoy yourself in Vegas, I am cancelling
Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 8:58:56 PM): Its done. Best of luck to you in the future, I really mean that. I hope things look up for you in the future. I will miss the old you. Farewell and all the best. I have already posted requests for someone to step up on Hybrid. I hope it survives this.
brejent (6/10/2007 9:00:16 PM): It wont since there was no one but me to step up. But I hope that things go well for it. And like I said I will be sending you mail to IBM. Maybe someday you will see things differently and not have such a jaded view of the world. I love ya Jet and this is breaking my heart . Good luck to you.




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Winter #21162 06/10/07 09:30 PM
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Oh and one last thing, I am not cancelling, I promised to many of you I would be there. I will remain cordial and professional.


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Yep, you're an ass.

Gyran #21164 06/10/07 10:37 PM
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Oh you missed the part of the chat from my Blackberry where she called me an "ASS". Welcome to the Oracle Gyran.


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Oh, got it.

Thankees for the welcome, I expected a ban XP

I'll miss you Winter =[

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Gyran I will still be in UO playing as always. You can get ahold of me in aim.


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Oh, got it.

Thankees for the welcome, I expected a ban XP

I'll miss you Winter =[




Thats no how it works here Gyran.


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Daniel Aubert (6/10/2007 7:13:34 PM): but hey, I am an "ASS"




I might be wrong, but I think maybe Gyran was agreeing with you.

I honestly think that Winters log, made you out to look better then your full log did Jet...

I know there's some bad blood tween yall now, but from this log, I'm gonna agree with em on the ASS part. =/


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my suggestion, don't add to the flames unless you know the whole story. Everyone likes to jump on points and base whole views on scraps of information.
Whats done is done its important to remember that taking responsibility for ones actions should be first and formost in conflicts.


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