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#145570 - 09/08/18 01:03 AM Re: Trump card [Re: Brutal]  
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Originally Posted by Brutal
That said, is 2 years of Pence better than 2 more years of Trump? Classic case of damned if you do damned if you don't...


Categorically yes. Pence at worst would outlaw abortions and gay marriage. Trump has a legitimate shot at ending Western Alliance, if not Western Civilization.

Some revelations coming out are hair-raising. Assassinate Bashar al-Assad via direct military strike? What do you think Russians going to do, sit and watch? Invade North Korea and hope China doesn't notice and NK won't fire on Seoul? This is how you get into a hot war with nukes flying around the globe. Holy Jesus Fucking Christ, if any of that is true, these were close fucking calls. Cuban Missile Crisis close. That just the stuff we know about. What if the next aide sneaking out of Oval Office with unsigned papers going to get caught?


#145575 - 09/15/18 03:23 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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Manafort plea deal includes cooperation . Trump is now officially Watergated.


#145577 - 09/16/18 10:09 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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Book is good. Scary good. Emphasis on scary. I'm not sure whats worse tbh, that Trump is as boneheaded as he is or that theres been an administrative coup in the West Wing. Neither bode well.


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#145603 - 10/02/18 11:50 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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NYT on Trump inheritance

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Times investigation found that he received at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father’s real estate empire, much of it through tax dodges in the 1990s.


So much for self-made man, BS like the rest of him.


#145612 - 10/08/18 12:56 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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Kavanaugh wins confirmation to the Supreme Court further politicizing the Supreme Court.


#145635 - 10/30/18 02:07 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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Trump intends now to sign an executive order rescinding birthright citizenship.

I wonder if he's even aware of what's inscribed in the Statue of Liberty?

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
MOTHER OF EXILES. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

#145636 - 10/31/18 12:39 AM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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For a change, I agree with Trump. If you want to reduce illegal immigration, reduce incentives to do so. Having your kids become US citizens is a very strong incentive to illegally immigrate to US.

US would get much better immigrants by using merit-based approach to legal immigration - invite in educated, healthy, young couples that already speak English and could quickly assimilate and become productive. Instead of taking in the worst what other countries have to offer.

However, I don't think this could or should be accomplished via executive order.


#145637 - 10/31/18 01:20 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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This gives a good summary of why Trump can't do this (sorry, it's a reddit link). In short, jus soli is granted by the 14th amendment in no uncertain terms, and executive orders don't alter the constitution.

I will have to respectfully disagree with your position on the sentiment of Trump's statements. In my opinion, immigration is far down the list of problems that we should be addressing. Point of my last post was to be a reminder that the USA is unequivocally a nation of immigrants, and the actions Trump and GOP are taking (or trying to take) erode our claims of being "the land of the free."

#145638 - 10/31/18 11:06 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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I think while immigration at the moment isn't a big deal, climate change will make it The Problem within our lifetimes. There will be people fleeing equatorial zones as they become less (not at all?) habitable. Anyone living North will have to dig in or will get overrun.


#145639 - 11/01/18 06:40 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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I think that aspect of the problem is perhaps overstated. We are by no means crowded, less so farther north. We are also a long way off from equatorial zones being uninhabitable. Besides, by denying would-be immigrants a chance to pursue their own freedom, we may be unintentionally preventing the next great mind(s) from having the chance to advance our civilization. Legal, on-the-tax-role immigrants are NOT something to ostracize in my opinion. The problem with most Americans' mentality is that they only know of the illegal, non-taxpaying immigrant stereotype, and so they froth at the mouth any time someone mentions loosening immigration restrictions. It's absurd.

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