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#142987 - 01/12/18 10:28 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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Most of the countries that fall into the shit hole category have a tradition of governance by force. Power is seized by force and maintained by force. Regime change is accomplished by force. There are no peaceful transitions of power. They have been that way for as long as they have existed, before current national boundaries were drawn, usually by colonial powers who threw bitter enemies together in the same "countries".

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#142989 - 01/12/18 10:46 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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Owain, and that dedication to peaceful transition of power is why it is important to let Hillary be. Even if she is likely guilty of many things. We don't vanquish our political enemies.


#142990 - 01/12/18 10:55 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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No one is suggesting that we vanquish our political opponents without cause, but neither should there be one standard of law enforcement for regular citizens, and a different standard of enforcement for the political 'elite'.

Hillary should be provided due process if prosecuted, but if it can be demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law based upon evidence presented in open court that she violated the law, she should be convicted, sentenced, and imprisoned.

That is the rule of law.


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#143000 - 01/13/18 01:23 AM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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Originally Posted by Sini
Owain, and that dedication to peaceful transition of power is why it is important to let Hillary be. Even if she is likely guilty of many things. We don't vanquish our political enemies.



What??????????
So what if we found out she killed 10 people......we just let her be???????

A crime is a crime. You don't let people off because they are the "political elite".


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#143002 - 01/13/18 01:28 AM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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How can you with a straight face say that Trump's Russian probe is a political witch hunt, but Hillary's emails and Benghazi is "she killed 10 people"? Have you no shame whatsoever?


#143003 - 01/13/18 02:20 AM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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Because there is no evidence Trump colluded with anyone. In fact, since it appears that the Clinton campaign together with the DNC funded the fabrication of the dossier which politicized agents in the FBI and prosecutors in the Justice Department used to fraudulently request FISA warrants to spy on Hillary's political opponents, all the wrongdoing and collusion lies on the Democratic side of the aisle.

Hillary, on the other hand, faces a mass of evidence in the form of data classified above Top Secret placed on her private server over an insecure network, as well as on other unauthorized systems. That represents a felony violation of federal law.

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#143005 - 01/13/18 02:34 AM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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So you failed to demonstrate how it is different, other than by your arbitrary partisan standard. While you are oblivious to reason, this kind of partisanship moves us closer to becoming a shithole country. So why bother keeping all these warlords out, when you are all too happy to act like one given the opportunity?


#143006 - 01/13/18 03:25 AM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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Because in one instance there is no evidence of any wrongdoing on Trump's part, and in the other instance there is abundant evidence of Hillary's serial felony violations of federal law.

Any other questions?

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#143008 - 01/13/18 04:18 AM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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For example, the presence of SAP (Special Access Program) data on Hillary's server should have been grounds for her immediate arrest and prosecution. SAP data is classified above Top Secret, and is enormously, unbelievably sensitive, and normally requires the utmost levels of security procedures. SAP data isn't even allowed on normal government secure computers and classified networks. SAP data requires additional levels of security entirely.

But Director Comey had exonerated Hillary before the investigation was complete, and the Justice Department under the Obama administration wasn't interested safeguarding our nation's most sensitive national security materials, because Political Elites aren't bound by the same laws as the rest of us.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/hillary-clintons-private-_b_10354484.html


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#143009 - 01/13/18 04:25 AM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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More background information on SAP programs and data.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_access_program


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