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#142962 - 01/12/18 02:03 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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Originally Posted by Sini
Shithole countries

I actually agree in principle with Trump on this. Why should any Western country take in people from failed third-world countries? To turn US into failed third-world country?



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This man was from a "shithole" country. Pvt Emmanuel Mensah. He gave his life running into a fire to pull and save people out of a burning building. There are good and bad people in every country. Us taking in immigrants from "shithole" countries doesn't mean we are taking in horrible people. If we didn't take in immigrants from "shithole" countries, I would not have met my wife, who is way of a harder worker than anyone I know and contributes WAY MORE than your average American.

this whole rhetoric is stupid.

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#142963 - 01/12/18 04:18 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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If these countries aren't shit holes, there is no reason not to send refugees back to them, is there?


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#142965 - 01/12/18 06:29 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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Ahhh yes, great rebuttal from the Trump apologist and cult member. I get your trying to deflect the whole Trump said something racist thing but I'm not going to let you. Trump is tired of having black people come into our country and frankly its so very sad that you are even attempting (poorly) to defend him.

Makes me really want to learn more about your upbringing and where you live.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/11/politics/trump-rock-bottom/index.html


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#142967 - 01/12/18 06:39 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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#142968 - 01/12/18 07:03 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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The issue isn't race, but the violence endemic in these countries.

Unless it is your theory that the countries are violent because the residents are black, which makes you the racist, doesn't it?


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#142970 - 01/12/18 07:13 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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*yawn* you are seriously getting boring here. You got to come up with some more material bro.


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#142971 - 01/12/18 07:38 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Sini]  
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And you have no valid argument.

Your response response is unworthy.


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#142972 - 01/12/18 08:57 PM Re: Trump card [Re: rhaikh]  
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Originally Posted by rhaikh
Originally Posted by Sini
Shithole countries

I actually agree in principle with Trump on this. Why should any Western country take in people from failed third-world countries? To turn US into failed third-world country?


But this shared sentiment of yours is still not coming from racism, right?


It isn't. It coming from a desire to not end up living in a failed country.


#142973 - 01/12/18 09:00 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Goriom]  
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Originally Posted by Goriom
There are good and bad people in every country.


I fully agree with this.

Originally Posted by Goriom
Us taking in immigrants from "shithole" countries doesn't mean we are taking in horrible people.


I disagree with this. I'd be 100% behind merit based immigration from any country, even ones I consider a shithole. Lets take in families with educated and motivated parents that are willing to integrate and contribute.

This is NOT what is happening with economic migrants and refugees and these people on the whole do not end up contributing to the country they end up in. Look at what is happening in EU if you want more examples of negative effects of economic refugees.


#142974 - 01/12/18 09:14 PM Re: Trump card [Re: Owain]  
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Originally Posted by Owain
And you have no valid argument.


I have to agree with Owain. Simply yelling racist is not going to cut it.

Here is direct questions to you:

a. Should we take in prison population from other countries? If no, why is this not racist view?
b. Should we deport non-citizen immigrants that committed violent crimes in US? If yes, why is this not a racist view?
c. Should we turn away people that professed hatred for our way of life, including rejection of social and civic norms? If yes, why is this not racist view?


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