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Sini #142107 11/16/17 04:24 PM
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I think it is premature to judge Trump's economic legacy. However, the first year he managed to avoid creating major economic disasters. His pick of reserve chair is also turned out to be very reasonable.

However, Trump can easily undo it all by blowing up NAFTA.


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It certainly is premature to try to predict the final economic outcome of the Trump administration, but in the face of current historically positive indicators, it is remarkably foolish to be predicting recession.

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Originally Posted by Sini
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With respect to the article in the Atlantic, if Julian Assange contacted Don Jr, so what? I have Nigerian Princes and government officials contact me all the time.

Assange initiated the contact. This was an Assange agenda being pursued, not a Trump agenda.


I agree with this, unless there are additional relevations, this by itself is not damning. However, you have to admit that Assange actions put his neutrality out of question. You can clearly attribute agenda to his leaks (anti-US), and he believed that Trump would further that agenda.

Assange might firmly believe the Earth is flat, but whatever is batting about inside Assange's head, that is governed only by Assange, and neither you, nor I, nor Trump can be held responsible or take either credit or blame.

Do you really want to ever take responsibility for thoughts or beliefs of someone else? Exactly how would that work?

So, let me send you a PM outlining my thoughts in favor of the repeal of Obamcare. Does that put your neutrality or opposition out of question? Should everyone now consider you a supporter of my personal opinions?

A nonsensical position, right?


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Originally Posted by Owain
Originally Posted by Sini
Originally Posted by Owain
With respect to the article in the Atlantic, if Julian Assange contacted Don Jr, so what? I have Nigerian Princes and government officials contact me all the time.

Assange initiated the contact. This was an Assange agenda being pursued, not a Trump agenda.


I agree with this, unless there are additional relevations, this by itself is not damning. However, you have to admit that Assange actions put his neutrality out of question. You can clearly attribute agenda to his leaks (anti-US), and he believed that Trump would further that agenda.

Assange might firmly believe the Earth is flat, but whatever is batting about inside Assange's head, that is governed only by Assange, and neither you, nor I, nor Trump can be held responsible or take either credit or blame.

Do you really want to ever take responsibility for thoughts or beliefs of someone else? Exactly how would that work?

So, let me send you a PM outlining my thoughts in favor of the repeal of Obamcare. Does that put your neutrality or opposition out of question? Should everyone now consider you a supporter of my personal opinions?

A nonsensical position, right?


but... they... acted... on.... wikileaks requests... wtf?

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Where do you get that?


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Owain #142128 11/17/17 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Owain
Where do you get that?


Re: article I posted regarding this story.

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How many pages up?


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https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/545738/

Though Trump Jr. mostly ignored the frequent messages from WikiLeaks, he at times appears to have acted on its requests. When WikiLeaks first reached out to Trump Jr. about putintrump.org, for instance, Trump Jr. followed up on his promise to “ask around.”

Trump Jr. did not respond to this message. But just 15 minutes after it was sent, as The Wall Street Journal’s Byron Tau pointed out, Donald Trump himself tweeted, “Very little pick-up by the dishonest media of incredible information provided by WikiLeaks. So dishonest! Rigged system!”

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APPEARS to have acted on its request? Is that the best you can do?

Even if someone you despise gives you information about something that may be bad for you, will you not investigate it just because you don't care for the individual who provided the tip? That would be stupid of you, wouldn't it? His checking out putintrump.org seems to be a reasonable act of self interest rather than working with Wikileaks in general.

Don's tweet was an accurate observation of the behavior of the media. In case you hadn't noticed, everyone in the campaign was very critical of the media.

I think The Atlantic article is a big nothing burger. As I observed earlier, I regularly get emails from Nigerian princes. Should The Atlantic do an article on that as well? If Assange initiated the contact with Don Jr, maybe The Atlantic should be interested in Assange's motives. Other than deleting spam when I get it, I don't have much control over what pops into my in box. Neither does Don Jr.

I think your argument can best be described as a logical fallacy. Correlation is not causation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Questionable_cause

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I have to agree with Owain, the linked article doesn't mention anything by Trump Jr. that is by itself is damnable.


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