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Originally Posted By: rhaikh
there exists actors who may be taking "social justice" too far does not reduce the need for social justice


I will go as far as stating that the world would be a better place without SJWs and the bulk of modern -ism movements.

The concepts of justice and the social signaling activity SJW engage in have very little in common. There is nothing virtuous in brigading on the social media against random transgressing individual and disproportionally victimizing said individual from the cover of internet anonymity under the guise of righteous retribution.

SJW activity closely resembles lynch mobbing and it is absolutely ineffective in delivering justice OR enacting a social change. It is no more just than Salem Witch Trials despite nominally following the justice process.

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I'm quite sure the definition of misogyny retains its meaning despite what some people might do in its name.


I disagree. Not when any men's issues advocacy, polite questioning of modern-day feminism postulates, advocating traditional family roles and labor division, promiscuous consensual sex, and so on grouped together with ass-grabbing, discrimination, harassment and so on.

Misogyny is meaningless because it became synonymous with "outgroup" (other guys). Ultimately, it is Red vs. Blue, and both sides equally capable of shitty behavior.


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Don't believe me? Go to Jezebel forums (or any other similar site) and simply cite statistics that show that campus sexual assault rates are not different from the general population, and both have been falling for the last decade or so. You will be called misogynist and promptly banned.


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I don't think my message is getting through, so if you'd like to hear an additional hour of discussion on this topic with no clear resolutions you should check out this segment of KQED's Forum. http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201508171000


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I think your message got through fine, you are saying that extremes on both sides like to straw man the most obnoxious of the opposing view as representative and thus poison the well against need for self-examination and disconfirmation of held bias.

While the extreme conservative slant has always been illogical, my point at least is that the mainstream PC view as far as it has reached institutional influence is now resembling the straw-men the conservative extremists used to stand up and this is not a good thing.

What used to be tolerance, has been re-packaged as intolerance for anything subjectively perceived as offensive. We would all be better off to inject a dose of reason into the issue and revert to practicing tolerance, discourse, and education.


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I wrote a post using SJW lingo (check your privilege, dominant culture, system of oppression, etc.), but I think it turned out too believable and too annoying. So I deleted it to spare the innocent bystanders.


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Originally Posted By: Sini
I wrote a post using SJW lingo (check your privilege, dominant culture, system of oppression, etc.), but I think it turned out too believable and too annoying. So I deleted it to spare the innocent bystanders.


=(

This forum all about collateral damage, I hope you saved it


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Derid, I will provide you with plenty of pearl-clutching opportunities without stooping that low.


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As an aside, in a fit of masochism I did listen to part of that recording. That Shu guy is.... just wow, thats all I can say... just wow.

One thing he said was how it is a micro aggression to compliment a black person for being articulate or intelligent for doing well in or adding to a class, because the implication is that they are the exception and other black people are not.

If there is a way to take something in a negative light, I am sure this guy can find it.

Its interesting because his drive for this thinking apparently came from people saying he had good English. He says the implication is that as an Asian he is not feeling welcome as a citizen, since after all he has been here his whole life. I guess the guy doesnt realize that despite all that, he has an extremely thick accent.

I suppose he has never paid attention and noticed that white people with extremely thick non-southern/Northeastern accents of European origin can get told the same thing. Maybe the Dutch in northern Michigan could relate to him.


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Derid, I noticed your English has improved, and you don't sound nearly as retarded after you stopped shooting crack and beating your spouse in a drug-induced stupor.

I know, right? Forget micro aggressions, go for mega!


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Originally Posted By: Sini
Derid, I noticed your English has improved, and you don't sound nearly as retarded after you stopped shooting crack and beating your spouse in a drug-induced stupor.

I know, right? Forget micro aggressions, go for mega!


I am extremely offended at your implication that I am married to anyone, stop forcing your conservative values down everyone's throat.


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