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Food Stamp Benefits Set To Shrink

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Some 47 million Americans who receive food stamps will see their benefits shrink by an average of 5 percent this week.

So in addition to the $5 billion cut to benefits taking effect today, many in Congress want to rein in food stamp spending even more.

The Democratic-controlled Senate would reduce it by $4.5 billion over 10 years; the Republican-led House would cut 10 times that amount, slashing spending on food stamps by almost $40 billion.


Why? Because fuck the poor, that why.


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Kind of odd how the Dems wanted some school-lunch thing enough to cut the food stamp program. FLOTUS "obesity" schtick taking priority? Not sure, but the whole food stamp thing struck me as kind of odd.


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Originally Posted By: Sini
Food Stamp Benefits Set To Shrink

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Some 47 million Americans who receive food stamps will see their benefits shrink by an average of 5 percent this week.

So in addition to the $5 billion cut to benefits taking effect today, many in Congress want to rein in food stamp spending even more.

The Democratic-controlled Senate would reduce it by $4.5 billion over 10 years; the Republican-led House would cut 10 times that amount, slashing spending on food stamps by almost $40 billion.


Why? Because fuck the poor, that why.


5000000000 reduction to 47000000 equals 106 dollars a year which is roughly 9 dollars a month. In the article it says
they have a 5% decrease in funding on average and they used a
example of a woman getting 300 a month which 5% is a 15 dollar
decrease. They should have used someone that proved the math.
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First round was 5% cut, they are haggling by how much cut during budget negotiations, so there are more cuts of X% coming down the pipeline.

Your "it just a little bit" argument is invalid. It is a cut. It has nothing to do with balancing budget, and just like with attempts to shut down PBS is purely ideologically driven.

This is throwing impoverished people, like a disabled veteran and lonely grandmother, under the bus to score political points with the base.

For some reason people on the right believe that "living off the dole" is a cushy life and if we made it harder all these people would find jobs and become productive members of society (instead of having existential motivation to turn to crime). This is charitable interpretation. Uncharitable interpretation would be "scree these niggers in the projects", because that is big chunk of food stamp recipients.

So chose - racism or ignorance. Ether way, it is not going to save any taxpayer money.


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Originally Posted By: Sini
First round was 5% cut, they are haggling by how much cut during budget negotiations, so there are more cuts of X% coming down the pipeline.

You "it just a little bit" argument is invalid. It is a cut. It has nothing to do with balancing budget, and just like with attempts to shut down PBS is purely ideologically driven.

This is throwing impoverished people, like a disabled veteran and lonely grandmother, under the bus to score political points with the base.

For some reason people on the right believe that "living off the dole" is a cushy life and if we made it harder all these people would find jobs and become productive members of society (instead of having existential motivation to turn to crime). This is charitable interpretation. Uncharitable interpretation would be "scree these niggers in the projects", because that is big chunk of food stamp recipients.

So chose - racism or ignorance.


Once again you show your ignorance and you seem to like to throw around racist words unprovoked.

No were did I say "it just a little bit". That is your progressive agenda coming out to keep telling lies over and over
until someone as ignorant as you will believe it.
I understand simple math seems to be a concept leftys do not
seem to understand, or any kind of math for that matter.

Please show the other cuts coming down the pipeline.
The article said it was budgeted for a certain amount
of time just like the tax cuts from Bush. They were not
to be permanent.
But it was a good move on the progressives so now they can blame budget cuts on the republicans.
Typical politics which the left is so much better at then the right.

You are correct the non-ignorant types want to get people
"living off the dole" off the dole to improve their life.
They do not want them dependent of the government so they
can get votes for their side.

So I chose for you both racist and ignorance, as you have shown
to be both.

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Originally Posted By: http://sanghoee.com/why-the-republican-math-on-food-stamps-is-stupidly-wrong/
If a person cannot find work and is unable to obtain food, what exactly do the Republicans think that person will do? Retreat into the shadows and die quietly? Migrate to the mountains and live off berries until the job market improves? Of course not. People with no available means to make a living, wracked by hunger, and desperate to survive, will not just disappear to avoid inconveniencing others, but will instead beg, steal, or kill, to stay alive. That is not a threat — that is simply human nature and harsh reality.

And this will in turn lead to increased homelessness, poverty, disease, and crime. All of these things carry a heavy cost for society both in dollar terms as well as in terms of the integrity of our social contract, and you do not need a Congressional Budget Office report to recognize that the ultimate price tag could be considerably higher than $4 billion a year.

But that is something the GOP willfully refuses to factor into its calculations — so obsessed is the party with cutting the budget and so opposed to helping the poor that it is willing to fudge the math to get there. The irony, of course, is that even though Republicans are diehard capitalists, and even though a simple cost-benefit analysis would reveal that keeping SNAP intact is the cheaper option, they are unable to apply even that principle here because of their fanaticism.

That is not governing and it is not even smart politicking; that is just bad old-fashioned stupidity.


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Ironically, this is not going to affect me or Jet. We are not on food stamps, we are also well-off enough that we can afford to hide behind tall walls of exclusive gated communities with private security. It is people like Hele that going to get caught on the wrong side of a starving looting mob and then wonder where it all went wrong.

How about this for math - it is cheaper to pay for generous social assistance than to incarcerate. Each prisoner costs taxpayers about $50K per year.


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Originally Posted By: Sini
How about this for math - it is cheaper to pay for generous social assistance than to incarcerate. Each prisoner costs taxpayers about $50K per year.


Repubs depict food stamps asdrain on the economy. Studies have shown that those on food stamps actually helped create an economic stimulus.
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A USDA study found that for every $5 in new SNAP benefits generates a total of $9.20 in community spending.


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I would be skeptical of >1 multiplier, but it certainly above zero. Also likely above incarceration multiplier, since people in prison don't directly generate any kind of economic activity (ignoring black market).


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Lets not forget it was the Dems that threw the food stamps under the bus in exchange for FLOTUS ego-gratifying "anti-obesity" school program.


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