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David Stockman's Stark Warning for America

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David Stockman, formerly a leading conservative Reaganite, now blames some of the economic program that he once supported for the 2008 meltdown and sluggish recovery.

Q: The GOP program has the supply-side, low-tax position at its core. If it won't generate the results they promise, why is it still such a part of the Republican agenda?

A: Because Republicans claim that we had this great Golden Age in the 1980s, that there was a boom in the 1990s, and that everything was going well during the George W. Bush era until some mysterious comet came in from deep space and caused a meltdown in 2008. My argument is that this was mostly a phony prosperity built on massive additions to public and private debt. That so-called prosperity came from the printing press in the Eccles Building run by Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke.

Q: But if cutting taxes doesn't create a roaring economy, why did people such as Wanniski and Jack Kemp champion this idea for so long?

A: Jude argued that there would be an instantaneous shock of higher gross domestic product on merely the announcement of tax cuts -- even before they were implemented.

Q: Rep. Paul Ryan, the chairman of the House Committee on the Budget, cites Kemp as his mentor. What's your assessment of Ryan?

A: He's all hat and no cattle. Beyond that, I think he's intellectually dishonest. His budget plans are bogus.



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Stockman is actually a pretty smart guy. Of course I am biased, if you read up on the whole of what he is saying its mostly the same crap I have been saying for a good long while.


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I don't remember you being nearly as critical of GOP fiscal policy. It is only since Mitt santorumed libertarians have you even started voicing criticisms.


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I dont recall ever being favorable towards Bush policies.

Afterwards ofc it will be Obama policies that I spend the most time criticizing, because his policies are the ones that get implemented. Criticizing GOP policies again has relevance when they start losing elections with them.

Besides, go read his NYT article and such - Stockman is saying a lot about a lot more than GOP policy.


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Originally Posted By: sini
I don't remember you being nearly as critical of GOP fiscal policy. It is only since Mitt santorumed libertarians have you even started voicing criticisms.



Coming from a guy who is only critical of GOP and no one else, you have no leg to stand on.
Keep the blinders on and keep your socialist manual handy.
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Originally Posted By: Derid

I dont recall ever being favorable towards Bush policies.


I also don't recall you sacrificing virgins to Satan. Is that suppose to qualify you as a moderate?


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Interesting read, but "The state-wreck originated in 1933, when Franklin D. Roosevelt opted for fiat money" is stretching it.

Fiat currency is better system than growth-stiffing deflatory gold standard. It also more prone to abuse via printing press, but similar was done since roman times with golden coins via adulteration.

"That Mr. Greenspan’s loose monetary policies didn’t set off inflation... "

It did set a number of bubbles, so whats the difference? Ether way, monetary policy and Reagan-style deficit spending (and unfunded tax cuts) are much closer to the "case" than anything Roosevelt done.


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Originally Posted By: sini
Originally Posted By: Derid

I dont recall ever being favorable towards Bush policies.


I also don't recall you sacrificing virgins to Satan. Is that suppose to qualify you as a moderate?


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Originally Posted By: sini


I also don't recall you sacrificing virgins to Satan. Is that suppose to qualify you as a moderate?


Who ever said I was "moderate" ? Thats a completely subjective term anyhow, all I find silly is when you pretend or assume I support X when its not the case.

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Interesting read, but "The state-wreck originated in 1933, when Franklin D. Roosevelt opted for fiat money" is stretching it.


Not stretching it, though the real issue goes back to the formation of the Fed itself as seen with Ben Strong creating the bubble that led to the Depression. Of course FDR further entangled , and then Nixon abandoned Bretton Woods entirely opening the path to Reagan style deficits and setting the stage and current mentality leading to the present clusterfuck we find ourselves in.

The fact that it is still obviously possible to completely screw up a metal currency does not mean that fiat currency is a great idea. But rather, fiat current opens up a whole new and unnecessary playground for mischief.

When you hear modern proponents of standards based currency talk, its not about the ideal of backed currency in of itself as the ideal but rather and additionally a particular philosophy and methodology for managing backed currency.

It is true that some govt have in the past even imposed deliberate deflationary policies and attempted to deflate a currency to peg to a certain measure of gold - like what Japan tried in an example you pointed out recently - however that has been known to be a boneheaded move since at least 1880.

The goal is stability, and trying to force one direction or another never ends well.


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